pothead_parent:
welcome to pod had parent we are lucky enough to have an amazing and motivational face time with our guest a couple of months ago and that was back when we first started out and now we're honored to have the opportunity to interview andrew de angelo today thank you for being with us thank you so much for coming on i am
andrew_deangelo:
nice to be with you nice to be with you
pothead_parent:
i wanted to just jump in and give the perfect intro i went on your website if no one has been on it you need to get on there and check out what andrew has done he is there's a lot so like overwhelming
andrew_deangelo:
oh
pothead_parent:
it's like i don't know where to start or say or so andrew was one of the few people to have owned and operated cannabis companies in the lay i see medical and adult use markets on both coasts of the united states as an activist for the last thirty five years andrew health legalized medical and adult use cannabis in california and washing n d c andrew co founded the last prisoner project with his brother steve in twenty nineteen l p p's mission is to free and to re integrate all canapist prisoners into main scenes main stream society since in inception in twenty nineteen l p p has successfully freed and reentered the formerly incarcerated into society and has provided is is for education housing and professional development to their constituents l p p is one of the more successful social justice non profits doing this work andrew is a trimbuter to forbes magazine where he writes about canabis business and culture he also has written for playboy m jabs daily green ontrefenour canabis now honey cycle magazine and so many others thank you so much for being here with us we know you are a pro in the cannabis field but you have so many more layers obviously um with you being one of the trail leaders ere's to this with your journey where are you right now what have you been up to at this moment
andrew_deangelo:
well thanks for asking i am doing three
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
main things in my life and my post harbor side life many listeners might know
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
me and my brother steve from our time with harbor side that's our
pothead_parent:
hmm
andrew_deangelo:
oh medical and adeltus dispensaries that we own that you referred to a moment ago
pothead_parent:
that's where i met
andrew_deangelo:
and
pothead_parent:
you on weed wars
andrew_deangelo:
yes weed wars the first reality t v show
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
about
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
legal candabist
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
so
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and now i'm helping other entrepreneurs build bear cannabis dispensaries their canvas companies as a consultant and a strategic advisor
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
i like doing that work because it enables me to build more than one company at a time so i have more of an impact
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
in a greater geographical area for the industry then
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
i do just building one company in one state
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
and on that to make my living i
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
am also chair
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
person of the board of
pothead_parent:
he
andrew_deangelo:
directors of last prisoner project
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
and that takes up about twenty five per cent of
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
my time it's a lot it's a volunteer position but
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
as you mentioned where trying to get people out of prison and um who've been working with this plant in one way
pothead_parent:
a
andrew_deangelo:
or another
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
for a long time and and it's slow going i must say
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
that work is really hard and they're locking up
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
they're locking them up or we can get him out unfortunately especially
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
at the federal level ut but we we carry on we continue on the community
pothead_parent:
did he
andrew_deangelo:
your listeners so many people have been supportive you guys
pothead_parent:
please
andrew_deangelo:
it's
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
just been amazing the communities really responded to the mission and the call and so as long as we're able to get everybody
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
to keep supporting l p p we're going to keep taking that energy
pothead_parent:
ah
andrew_deangelo:
and trying to get people out
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
of prison so i do that and as you mentioned i try to write and speak and create
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
and and nd
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
contribute to canvas pop culture and thought leadership
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
as much as i can that i wish
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
i could do a lot mo or that work than i'm
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
actually able to have time to do
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
as i'm sure we all are but but
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
those are basically the three things i do in my life right now and
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
and you know it's a very challenging moment for the canvas industry the legal cannavis industry is very tough moment right now
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and so it's important that we all stick
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
together and try especially those of us that are not big
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
companies or big m s s are just grinding
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
it out on the grass s level
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
you know it's important we stick together right now it's
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
a tough time
pothead_parent:
right that was a big thing it was really nice a couple i mean was that almost seven months ago when we first started yeah it went by really fast you spoke to us and you talked to us about you know honoring our legacy growers and you know being a part of you know the education piece of the cannabis culture rather and you know the fun pop culture instagrant that's not what we're trying to do and that's not what you're completely trying to do so i appreciate you know someone like you is able to give that messaging from the front end of talking to these prisoners who are you know in jail still or going in or coming out and getting into the world now which is definitely a transition which i'm sure you know derrick as a transition from know even being from over seas a military and then coming home so it's great to be able to have a network of people with the last prisoner project that are there for them you know when they get out as well we saw it first hand we became friends actually with mario ramos over the last probably year or so so i met him standing outside i think i asked him for a lighter like it was just the most random conversation but we've grown and seen him grow over the last year and to see the support that we're actually hanging up with them at biskan to see the support that they have one getting out of there and then when they come out of there to have a job to have the support system to have a phone to have somewhere to go i was great see because like in the military like she's saying you get out of the military and you're out like good luck see you later you're probably goin up killing yourself that's the sad truth of it and they don't really seem to care but to see that care and support gettin t was very nice to see i do have one question for you that's kind of out of the box from the beginning of it all because i know i mean this candavis thing isn't new to you you've been smoking for quite some time
andrew_deangelo:
oh
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
yes
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
i've been smoking weed now almost forty years
pothead_parent:
well we i mean so do you remember your first time
andrew_deangelo:
oh sure you never get your first
pothead_parent:
so
andrew_deangelo:
time
pothead_parent:
what was that like that i have to ask we always asked this question
andrew_deangelo:
because of my older brother street steve you know
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
i was introduced at a pretty young age
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
and and when i was i don't know thirteen or four
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
team maybe a little older for some reason
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
i took some edibles some
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
weed brownies that my brother made i can't remember what motivated
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
that happen
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
but i did and it was not like
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
he shoved him down my throat i just was i just
pothead_parent:
it was your moment yeah
andrew_deangelo:
yeah yeah i just said
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
yes at that moment
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
and it was we had
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
a
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
it was a rainy night and my brother was going out and doing a bunch of rounds for his weed business in those
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
days and and you know he gave me these brownies and
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
and i had a great experience you know
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and and then
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
i didn't really take canovas for a few
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
years because i was an athlete after that first experience and the first experienc
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
was more just it was a kind of a psychodelic experience and it was
pothead_parent:
ye
andrew_deangelo:
it was really there was a lot of uphoria
pothead_parent:
for
andrew_deangelo:
and just
pothead_parent:
ah
andrew_deangelo:
experiencing something new that i not experienced before and
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
i was pretty young so
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
it really might it was like spring water
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
so i really felt
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
the medicine
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
and and
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
had a great experience but
pothead_parent:
but
andrew_deangelo:
but didn't take it for a few years later
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
and then i got hurt when i was an athlete in my
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
dream to be a professional athlete was over when i was in high school and then i started taking cannabis more regularly to deal
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
with physical and really psychic pain emotional pain spiritual pain
pothead_parent:
ye
andrew_deangelo:
and
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
that's when all the light bulbs went off
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
now this was nineteen eighty three or whatever and and i realize
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
that
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
there's something to this that needs more of my attention
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
and and so my brother was
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
already nee deep in activism and canadas
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
trading and all kinds of things so i was easy i was lucky it was easy for me to plug
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
into something that was already pretty well developing my brother and then just contribute from there
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and learn from their end you know the rest
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
is hypstory as we say and so that was my start
pothead_parent:
now with your brother it started you getting into the legal end of things when he actually got inhersorated correct
andrew_deangelo:
well that was now you're going back even before my smoke my first experiences with canavis yes my brother's first arrest was when he was eighteen i was nine
pothead_parent:
oh wow
andrew_deangelo:
so steve's about ten years old let me so
pothead_parent:
oh so you at a first
andrew_deangelo:
it was
pothead_parent:
hand
andrew_deangelo:
for possession we're hearing a lot about
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
this with joe baton so it was for
pothead_parent:
h
andrew_deangelo:
possession it was a federal charge
pothead_parent:
a
andrew_deangelo:
because he was going to
pothead_parent:
it
andrew_deangelo:
an airport and
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
and they locked him up for about i don't know four or five months and then he had to go on
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
probation all that kind of stuff and this is for i don't know half a joint or something ridiculously
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
small
pothead_parent:
my gosh
andrew_deangelo:
amount of weak um and and i
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
was nine years old we had to go visiting my parents took me to the jail
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
to visit my brother because now that's what families
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
do when you have people locked up as you
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
go visit them and you bring the kids
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
and you bring try to bring people right because when when you're locked up having visitors is super important you know you should go visit people that you love that are locked up
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
as much as you can
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
it helps nothing
pothead_parent:
to
andrew_deangelo:
helps a
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
prisoner more than that other than maybe getting a letter using the phone
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
but these are the things that allow people to do their time without completely losing their minds or like you said
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
harming themselves maybe
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
so um
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
so it's really important so we went as a family and i was nine years old and you know when you're nine
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
years old they still pat you down they still search you they
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
still make you
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
go through all the protocols that you know that that everybody else has to go through and and all that
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
had a pretty big
pothead_parent:
yah
andrew_deangelo:
impact on me it was a scary intimidating
pothead_parent:
h
andrew_deangelo:
awful
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
experience
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
and i felt bad
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
for my brother and and you know he was in there
pothead_parent:
m yeah
andrew_deangelo:
and we had to talk on the phone to
pothead_parent:
ok
andrew_deangelo:
the
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
in those days they didn't have the pole the glass they just
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
had bars
pothead_parent:
us
andrew_deangelo:
and like mesh like a lot of mesh and and you had the phone
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
because
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
i don't know there was a lot of noise so you couldn't really hear
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
anybody and and plus they wanted to record everything i guess
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
so and it was this little country jail in the middle nowhere and we had to drive
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
for hours and hours and hours to get there
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
my
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
parents were divorced so it was very awkward no ride to the jail
pothead_parent:
hm
andrew_deangelo:
because my mom couldn't drive for
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
that long period of time by yourself and
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
and so
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
you know it was one of those very weird
pothead_parent:
her
andrew_deangelo:
we're
pothead_parent:
work
andrew_deangelo:
terrible experiences you
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
have a little kid that's really plants
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and plant you know really
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
makes an impression on your mind and your heart and your spirit and
pothead_parent:
it's
andrew_deangelo:
so
pothead_parent:
a trauma
andrew_deangelo:
i never yeah and you know all your neighbors know about it and they're asking you about
pothead_parent:
a
andrew_deangelo:
it and all your friends at school are like
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
oh your brothers in jail on by bland
pothead_parent:
a oh
andrew_deangelo:
and it makes you feel very all
pothead_parent:
it's a lot to
andrew_deangelo:
and
pothead_parent:
deal
andrew_deangelo:
it
pothead_parent:
with
andrew_deangelo:
makes
pothead_parent:
too at
andrew_deangelo:
you
pothead_parent:
that age is a lot
andrew_deangelo:
yeah it's a lot to deal with right and so that was before you know that was just the effects of the drug war and the were on cannabis that had on our family and i guess it was probably inevitable that i would grow up to be who i am you know
pothead_parent:
eh
andrew_deangelo:
from that experience
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
because you know it was so dramatic
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
and i knew
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
my brother to be a good person before he went
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
to prison and all the people at the prison
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
made him seem like a bad person
pothead_parent:
h
andrew_deangelo:
because you know there lecturing
pothead_parent:
a
andrew_deangelo:
you about don't
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
end up like your brother and you don't want to end up in here and blahblablah all this stuff that cops you know tell you
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
m and i had to be alone with
pothead_parent:
ah
andrew_deangelo:
the cops because my parents went and visit him before i did because there
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
was only so much room in the visitor
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
booth
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
that you had to stand
pothead_parent:
hm
andrew_deangelo:
in and so so anyhow or they didn't let us i forget they probably n't let us all in there together at the
pothead_parent:
okay
andrew_deangelo:
same time that would have been too humane but um so i was alone with these jailers and they were lecturing
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
me about and
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
telling me about my brother being so bad i knew that my brother was good and so it seemed like a lie to me and it
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
seemed like they were lying they were totally lying to me and fact they as i got older i realized they were lying to me and certainly
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
when i started smoking we i was like this is definitely ly a lie
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
you're
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
getting me so uh that
pothead_parent:
that was just based
andrew_deangelo:
yeah you're
pothead_parent:
on
andrew_deangelo:
right
pothead_parent:
generational
andrew_deangelo:
had a
pothead_parent:
issues
andrew_deangelo:
big impact
pothead_parent:
then
andrew_deangelo:
on me it had a huge impact on my life going to visit my brother in jail you right
pothead_parent:
and that's pretty much what attracted you into the cannabis industry and working with others especially now with the last prisoner project in being a part of that with your brother with all of that trauma and you know those things happening you still succeeded quite well through college i actually wrote a quote online and you stated i forcedet to have a stellar college experience in both academics and weed i was an honoured
andrew_deangelo:
uh
pothead_parent:
student served in the set in the student senate all four years um and i realized this probably isn't one of your most you know famous quotes of any means but it definitely stuck out to me because it was a full explanation of how you can be sick cessful and get through things in life any traumas clearly or you know learn from it work through it and create something you know with it you gave zero funk about what anybody thought about you as well as your brother steve and i feel like that you know it was something you grew into from what you're talking about and what we're what we're saying from what you're happening in your past um but with that i just want to say or ask was there a time where you felt you needed to hide your
andrew_deangelo:
oh sure
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
the way it was in the nineteen eighties when i was in high school in college was you had to
pothead_parent:
ah
andrew_deangelo:
communicate with other stones and people who loved cannabis in code
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
so you couldn't have a little this says last prisoner project on it you couldn't have something with a weed leaf
pothead_parent:
a
andrew_deangelo:
on it that you wore because
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
if you had something ith a weed leaf on it that you wore in nineteen eighty five nineteen six they'd search you
pothead_parent:
she
andrew_deangelo:
um and they search your locker they search your car they searched they stop you on the street in search of and so it was much different time it was really dangerous so yeah we
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
away i used to go into
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
the woods my friends pretty deep into
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
the woods the suburban woods you know
pothead_parent:
sounds like my
andrew_deangelo:
and
pothead_parent:
childhood too i did it
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
on a
andrew_deangelo:
i
pothead_parent:
bridge
andrew_deangelo:
mean we
pothead_parent:
out
andrew_deangelo:
all
pothead_parent:
in the woods
andrew_deangelo:
we all we hit our us
pothead_parent:
yah
andrew_deangelo:
we went into the woods we went where adults wouldn't
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
go and in those days we had a lot more freedom to roam around as kids than you do now i think
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
but but but you know we were
pothead_parent:
ye
andrew_deangelo:
roaming around all over the place and
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
trying to find any dark alley or woods
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
or anywhere
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
we wouldn't get caught but if you got caught the hammer came down on you pretty hard in those days so you had to work
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
really hard not to get caught and
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
because i i've been trained by my older bro steve not to get caught i
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
was walking for ways into the woods before i take my wet out and smoke it because i didn't want to get caught
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
and then in college you know
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
i sold wheat through the storms and that was a harroweene experienc it's right because i would lose my scholarship it get kicked out of school
pothead_parent:
he
andrew_deangelo:
all this terrible thing would happen so
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
i had to i had to devise some very
pothead_parent:
there
andrew_deangelo:
elaborate systems
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
to make sure that i could do that in a safe way in the storms and
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
so yeah we had to hide
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
our use and we even have a little
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
it's with each other are you going to the the grateful debtor coming into town are you going to the show yeah i'm going to the show okay that means you smoke
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
weed let's go to smoke and join what kind of music do you listen to i like bob marley oh that
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
means
pothead_parent:
mean
andrew_deangelo:
you smoke weed let's go smoke it joint
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
um um and you know there were little codes
pothead_parent:
as
andrew_deangelo:
like that you might have a
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
hemp him a little hemp
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
bracelet on um in the nineties they are very popular if you were a stone or
pothead_parent:
h
andrew_deangelo:
you'd add a little hemp
pothead_parent:
h i was
andrew_deangelo:
necklace
pothead_parent:
a little kid
andrew_deangelo:
or
pothead_parent:
and had one
andrew_deangelo:
yeah right they got really big
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
for a while everybody had one but in the
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
beginning they were a little code and let people know
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
hey this is half i smoke we
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
let's go smoke weed and and it was great in the sense that it brought us together you know
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
in ways that are very
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
unique because you had you had to establish trust with people very quickly because you are breaking a lot together
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
and you could get in serious trouble together
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and so you had to trust that you weren't going to snitch each other out
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
or you know you were going to be smart and you weren't going to like walk into your parents house with
pothead_parent:
no
andrew_deangelo:
you know blood
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
stuck on to your shirt or something um and um
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and and you know that's that's how it was in some
pothead_parent:
ye
andrew_deangelo:
in some respects it was it was kind of cool in those days because you had that
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
instant bond and trust with people once you figured out that you are both
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
owners and you could smoke joint
pothead_parent:
it
andrew_deangelo:
but you know sometimes you went for a long time i mean i would know someone six months sometimes twelve months a year
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
before i realized that they smoked weed and i smoked
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
week um and wow i've known you all this time
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
we could have been smoking weed
pothead_parent:
ye
andrew_deangelo:
together and you were too afraid to tell me you
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
smoked eat and i was afraid to tell and we didn't have the code because i don't
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
know you were dere i was in the theater department and you were in the business department or
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
whatever and
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
and the codes just weren't present in the same way and so we didn't hook up as stones
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
together so it was very
pothead_parent:
very
andrew_deangelo:
different and yes we definitely hit our use we we we if you
pothead_parent:
h
andrew_deangelo:
were a trader
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
or grower you always had some other
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
kind of straight job you know make sure you are following your taxes
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
and that
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
you know you had a good
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
story if anybody you know asked
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
you any questions
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
in the interrogation room you could say oh yeah i deliver pizas
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
here's my pay text stubs um and and you had to do all those kind of things right whereas yeah
pothead_parent:
i go
andrew_deangelo:
i deliver pizasbut that's just the cover story
pothead_parent:
so
andrew_deangelo:
for you know i'm dealing
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
weed were i'm growing weak and that's how i'm really making money that pizis just you know
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
keeps
pothead_parent:
used to
andrew_deangelo:
me
pothead_parent:
call
andrew_deangelo:
in peace
pothead_parent:
plaza for years that's what i used to call weed i used
andrew_deangelo:
it's
pothead_parent:
to test
andrew_deangelo:
a
pothead_parent:
my gum i need some pizza that was the code word for quite some time actually still is but it's funny because you
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
say like people coming out of the wood works like with what we're doing with parents veterans and stuff like how many parents just messages like hey man i've been a stoner for like five years no one knows and like guys like you got to talk about this or so many people that you know consume or they think they think they don't smoke but they do because they don't actually smoke it like so i'm gonna put
andrew_deangelo:
right
pothead_parent:
my i'm gonna put my father on the spot here he we took him out the other night would take him to his first dispensary and he walks in and he's talking talking he goes yeah he goes so where do i get some weed why are you whispering they sell cannabis here this is what they do
andrew_deangelo:
yes
pothead_parent:
now he's
andrew_deangelo:
right
pothead_parent:
almost sixty so he's in that stigma of he's on the line like okay i get it but i don't want anybody to
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
know about it but it's just it's educating the people that you know there's so many people that use it that you would have no clue professionals doctors athletes i mean everybody it's crazy right because it truly brings a different person out of us right if we are in tune with who we are we're able to engage ourselves a little differently when we are under the influence of canabas and people have always seen it as being a negative thing but it's shown that there are so many successful people that do consume cannabis on regular daily and a lot of people don't even know about it and then they find out and here like well that's no that's not true don't know it is true it's just the ignorance behind it they don't want to believe that it's it's that's the tough part with the cation it's like whether you agree with it or not if you want to use it or not that's cool but like kids nowadays are growing up in legal weed you have to talk to your children if you don't you're going to have that lazy stoner kid that's hiding from you that's going to be unproductive like you have to talk to your kids it's it's a different
andrew_deangelo:
right
pothead_parent:
word we're on up
andrew_deangelo:
or or you know
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
or if you don't talk to your kids and educate them they may find
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
themselves in a situation that they don't know how to react to
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
um and you know with the fentinal and all this going around right now um to not talk about these things you know there are a lot of parents that have gone to a lot of funerals the last few years and they will
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
tell you that i should have talked more about it
pothead_parent:
absolutely
andrew_deangelo:
and so it's really good
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
work that you're doing
pothead_parent:
ah
andrew_deangelo:
because those two groups parents and veterans they are
pothead_parent:
a oh
andrew_deangelo:
such need of the medicine and
pothead_parent:
high stress
andrew_deangelo:
so ray
pothead_parent:
and
andrew_deangelo:
so much stigma and so much fear in those communities to come forward your trade you're going to lose your kids that that
pothead_parent:
hm
andrew_deangelo:
child protective services all these um down stream of facts that the average person doesn't even think about when you're
pothead_parent:
no
andrew_deangelo:
talking about legalization and the lawmakers
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
don't protect parents after legalizing all these little things that people
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
don't think of that you have to do so
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
it's on a policy level and also on a cultural level right so
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
that people will feel comfortable coming out of the closet and because most of their neighbors and people they admire
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and respect are in the glade to or
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
a
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
lot of em are and so it's really the first
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
step of anybody being active with cannabis
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
active list
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and i don't like to use that word just because it seems like you know you're burning down the house in the streets and that's not
pothead_parent:
hm
andrew_deangelo:
really what you're doing
pothead_parent:
no
andrew_deangelo:
what activists do is they
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
activate people and
pothead_parent:
yeah oh
andrew_deangelo:
they educate people they get people to
pothead_parent:
engage
andrew_deangelo:
cast their votes cast their votes a little differently perhaps or engage within their communities a little differently
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
perhaps or be more
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
tolerant of we chop down the street
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
so these
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
are things that
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
our first active activism is coming out of the closet
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
saying hey this is part of my life and
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
it should be part of years two and here's why or it could be part of years
pothead_parent:
no
andrew_deangelo:
two or maybe it should be part of yours two and here's why
pothead_parent:
ah
andrew_deangelo:
why it helped me why i'm talking
pothead_parent:
he
andrew_deangelo:
about this right now and that's
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
the first step once people start doing that
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
then
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
your uncles and your aunts
pothead_parent:
dan
andrew_deangelo:
and your parents and grandparents
pothead_parent:
yeh
andrew_deangelo:
and the people around the dinner pable and even the kids even
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
the teen agers
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
they'll
pothead_parent:
of
andrew_deangelo:
start to get real information that's not misinformation and it's
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
not lives perhaps and that makes
pothead_parent:
a
andrew_deangelo:
people feel more comfortable that maybe i can consider something like cannabis if i
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
should get cancer or if i should
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
give birth to a child with epilepsy or if i should
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
you know get
pothead_parent:
okay
andrew_deangelo:
chronic
pothead_parent:
indeed
andrew_deangelo:
pain because
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
you're aging right
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and twenty percent of all adults over the age of fifty
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
have chronic pain
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
um and that's that's
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
i don't know i don't know that's probably fifty million people right there
pothead_parent:
i'm i'm
andrew_deangelo:
in the united
pothead_parent:
a way under fifty and i have chronic pain every day just from the military like it's and
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
they feed
andrew_deangelo:
you know
pothead_parent:
you pills instead of canabus i went to the v
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
a real quick the other day for different things but literally labeled me with a cannabis use disorder i'm like are we going here now on my record and i'm actually proud of it i'll take that i don't care
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
because
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
the gentleman that was next to me was snorting fenton all for seven days so
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
why we were in the same area not really sure but and then i proceeded to talk to this doctor and said i asked me a question how many people in this hospital are like withdrawing from canabus like you know was being an so then she goes i go oh nobody oh that's weird okay i said my itching and sweating and my feeding and my throwing up and my withdrawing she didn't ant to have the conversation any more politely left the room so it's like love been under this huge taboo i mean i remember learning about cannabis during dar class in high i mean an elementary
andrew_deangelo:
uh
pothead_parent:
school in fifth grade and you know that's something that we want to plement and push is like just like we pushed the taboo now of what cannavis is or was to everybody we need to now show that it's not it helps people medicinally and then if you even go further down you can use it with your hem products i know you know you work very closely with a brand and being able to use it for your gens or your clothing or i saw you with pot holders or you can build a house with it there's so
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
much more to this plant not just consuming its it's implementing it in our life style in every single way
andrew_deangelo:
so true and your experience
pothead_parent:
ah
andrew_deangelo:
at the v is just sad story right when you're surrounded by people that are on
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
their way to death with this ventinal
pothead_parent:
mhm
andrew_deangelo:
and you're
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
given this
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
mariwata use disorder
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
i don't know label or tag whatever
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
it is
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
i don't know if that's gonna have an impact on you
pothead_parent:
hopefully
andrew_deangelo:
or not
pothead_parent:
not we'll find out very shortly here but it's it's
andrew_deangelo:
i
pothead_parent:
you
andrew_deangelo:
imagine
pothead_parent:
know they don't make
andrew_deangelo:
it
pothead_parent:
care it's crazy
andrew_deangelo:
yeah i
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
mean i imagine that does have negative impacts on some that
pothead_parent:
h
andrew_deangelo:
and
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
it's a shame because canovas is the gateway out
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
of fentinal
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
canovas is the gateway out of harrowing out of these harder
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
drugs in
pothead_parent:
ah
andrew_deangelo:
not
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
one hundred percent of every single case but a lot of
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
people and i've
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
seen it for twenty years been working with these
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
communities i've seen time and time again
pothead_parent:
yeh
andrew_deangelo:
people come up to me and say it was the weed
pothead_parent:
ah
andrew_deangelo:
that got me off the pills okay
pothead_parent:
hm
andrew_deangelo:
and no one
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
wants to be on pills no one wants to be strung out on fentinal these are conditions and sicknesses
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
that people have they're in pain of one kind or another physical pain emotional pain psychic pain and people don't deal with pain
pothead_parent:
no
andrew_deangelo:
they
pothead_parent:
the tough
andrew_deangelo:
will kill their pain or
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
they will manage their pain hopefully manage their pain
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and and this is where we want things like meditation like exercise
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
like
pothead_parent:
like
andrew_deangelo:
physical therapy and yes
pothead_parent:
a
andrew_deangelo:
like canvas and plant medicines you play a role
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
in getting people well
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
right and getting
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
people paying addressed in a good
pothead_parent:
ye
andrew_deangelo:
way in a way
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
that's not go kill them
pothead_parent:
h
andrew_deangelo:
right because oh i relapsed and i took some fentinal
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
with that i thought was something else and now i'm dead
pothead_parent:
yep
andrew_deangelo:
and my family has to bury me and my friends have to bury me and it's it's
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
awful you know it's awful what's going on out there and so it's really
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
sad to hear the v a being like that after all this time you know and we've done a lot of
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
education with the v a i'm sure you've done your
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
own education with the v a it's not like they haven't
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
heard the education it's not like the science
pothead_parent:
i know
andrew_deangelo:
is not available
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
to them they're just being dick's okay
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
i mean that's just the only way to
pothead_parent:
it
andrew_deangelo:
describe it
pothead_parent:
h
andrew_deangelo:
and
pothead_parent:
m oh
andrew_deangelo:
and our veterans
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
deserve a lot better you know and everyone talks but that's deserving all
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
these all the devotion that they do deserve from us and then they don't get
pothead_parent:
death
andrew_deangelo:
it you know and then they get treated like this
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and i don't know it kisses me off as
pothead_parent:
no
andrew_deangelo:
an american and as someone who
pothead_parent:
ah
andrew_deangelo:
works with these communities and
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
i mean we could
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
there could be all kinds of canvas healing with that psychodalic healing with
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
that it could all be operational right now there's no reason it couldn't be it's just it anson
pothead_parent:
it's
andrew_deangelo:
and politics
pothead_parent:
took the words right out of my mouth plus more but it's like and i told them for years because i got hooked on pills a long time ago was going to three different actors but you know through my records of ten and twelve years at the v a do you think there is any label or comment in there that i told them i was addicted to opioids please do not give me it anymore there's no opio juice disorder anywhere in my record it's like
andrew_deangelo:
wow
pothead_parent:
you got to be kidding me but you know i got a cannabis use disorder so i'll stick with that and roll with that but just it's pathetic it really is and it needs to chang like you're saying it can change they just you know blind i they don't care it's just the ignorance to it it's sad it will
andrew_deangelo:
i've
pothead_parent:
change
andrew_deangelo:
heard
pothead_parent:
one day
andrew_deangelo:
that changes from region region did
pothead_parent:
yah
andrew_deangelo:
you find it got better
pothead_parent:
yah
andrew_deangelo:
when you moved or was it basically the same
pothead_parent:
the care
andrew_deangelo:
just how they view cannabis in the bottom
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
versus
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
somewhere
pothead_parent:
it's funny
andrew_deangelo:
else
pothead_parent:
like out here i mean everybody smokes weed so they don't really care but you know they're looking to pin something on you and it's like you like oh you smoke weed and like yeah like everybody probably your employes that work here too and you know they're just looking to taggi with stuff like when i went
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
in there they made me she's like ell how is your pain i go i'm always in pain and like i don't know it's a three and she was making me give her a specific area that hurts so she could prescribe me muscle relaxers i was like are you trying to make me tell you something hurts because this is not like this is not okay and i told her what i do for living i said actually educate veterans on how not to get fucked over at the v a and stories that have happened so it's like there's so much that needs to change there eventually it's going though they're not going to have a choice but it's i think the veterans are going to be a big big name in the push to get this legalized as far as in
andrew_deangelo:
i
pothead_parent:
the v
andrew_deangelo:
think you're
pothead_parent:
or anything
andrew_deangelo:
right i see
pothead_parent:
what
andrew_deangelo:
a lot of activism
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
happening in the in the veteran community right now leaders like you are holding the flag and leading the charge and it's great because
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
change needs to occur there really
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
really badly
pothead_parent:
too many people die in way too young too many kids left behind too many wives families it's just it's it's got to stop it's from twenty two a day now to forty four a day statistically it's like what other flag do you need go up in the air like hello i mean it's
andrew_deangelo:
wow
pothead_parent:
wild
andrew_deangelo:
that's so sad i'm so sorry to
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
hear that i didn't know it was that high now
pothead_parent:
yeah it's up to twenty two for forty four a day now so it's
andrew_deangelo:
yah
pothead_parent:
it's crazy
andrew_deangelo:
m
pothead_parent:
i did want to ask you a couple more questions
andrew_deangelo:
yes
pothead_parent:
kind of break it up a little bit but in a smoking circle what's your biggest pot peef'agoodone
andrew_deangelo:
oh you know i'm pretty forgiven in a smoking
pothead_parent:
ah
andrew_deangelo:
circle
pothead_parent:
you're ready
andrew_deangelo:
i
pothead_parent:
high
andrew_deangelo:
think
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
that yeah i mean i'm pretty forgiving one of the pet pas i have right now is
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
when people aren't mindful that we're still
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
in a covid um reality um
pothead_parent:
o
andrew_deangelo:
and so they get a little reckless with with how they're consuming or sharing
pothead_parent:
or even preparing
andrew_deangelo:
a
pothead_parent:
oh my god the ways that
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
you can prepare now there's so many other ways besides using your saliva and just getting all in an to smoke
andrew_deangelo:
well
pothead_parent:
my own
andrew_deangelo:
and
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
just yeah there's
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
different there's just different ways
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
of holding a drink so it doesn't touch your mouth and
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
you know just so that's
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
one of my pet peas because
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
you know the covid is still happening
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
we're still in this respiratory
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
you know sickness reality
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
that we're living in so
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
that but i'm pretty forgiving man once you're in a circle i'm so happy that you're there and that
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
we're
pothead_parent:
love
andrew_deangelo:
all sharing
pothead_parent:
that
andrew_deangelo:
tunovis together that you know if you bogart the join or you get
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
or it goes out or the cherry comes out or whatever
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
you know it's like
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
it's all right
pothead_parent:
i love that that's how i am i'm
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
like whatever who cares this one who's like my pet paves the burn that just hate i'm going basset can
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
pass it just just going away
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
like i'll
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
get there man it will happen you'll get it we'll all get it we'll all share
andrew_deangelo:
gentle
pothead_parent:
it
andrew_deangelo:
gentle
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
reminders i am
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
a believer in gentle reminder
pothead_parent:
it's a little hey which over there
andrew_deangelo:
yeah i mean i'm not going to just sit
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
there and not say anything
pothead_parent:
yeah you got to say something it's like some good weed can you not let it burn that long place
andrew_deangelo:
yeah i'm
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
not
pothead_parent:
love
andrew_deangelo:
gonna
pothead_parent:
it
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
or no what do you say that i do is when half of it she canesitevtime i don't she
andrew_deangelo:
oh
pothead_parent:
prefers belike song so when she smokes a blunt or a joint she wax on it like you can't do that and it's like a cigar taking a little slow nice and smooth turn it like she she just
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
wants to take the thing right down and then you know whole thing runs and it well that's my second question what's your favorite way to consume oh
andrew_deangelo:
wow it's changed over the years you know but i still love smoking hash
pothead_parent:
yeah m
andrew_deangelo:
so that's really
pothead_parent:
old school
andrew_deangelo:
you know
pothead_parent:
that's old school
andrew_deangelo:
still i still love
pothead_parent:
love
andrew_deangelo:
really
pothead_parent:
it
andrew_deangelo:
good flower too
pothead_parent:
ship
andrew_deangelo:
but you know old school
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
water hash i love finger hash is really my favorite finger hashes when you're harvesting wheat and and the
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
sticky stuff gets on your fingers and you rub it and
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
its hash basically
pothead_parent:
hm
andrew_deangelo:
um and i love finger hash so and i just love good clean regenerative sun one
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
cannabis that's really what i'm into and that's what i seek out luckily here in california i'm able to get that pretty much year around but but in a lot of play it's hard you know it's harder to get the sun grown but but that's what i love to consume i also take a lot of edibles because you know i can't i can't inhale as much cannabis at my age as i could you know forty years ago when i first started so i do i still i take a lot of capsules basically hopes capsules
pothead_parent:
her we had sometimes our son so were the podheadparents likes to make a cameo appearance so he just ran on the door so missy's grabbing him but the consumption
andrew_deangelo:
okay
pothead_parent:
like you're saying yeah i'm a blunt guy i like to roll my own joints but were like were trying to educate on our end like myself i started taking edibles and like hey i want to stop smoking i just don't want to physically smoke um they kill my stomach i don't know what it is but like that oil or whatever in my stomach
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
it's
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
like a four or five day thing it's horrible
andrew_deangelo:
m
pothead_parent:
um
andrew_deangelo:
right
pothead_parent:
and i tried it a couple of times or i'm like okay maybe i was just a bad batch or from a different state but no it's just what do they call that sea see something like where the oil in your stomach people get sick from it
andrew_deangelo:
yeah it's not uncommon t's not uncommon that people get a little bit of of that
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
people that are sensitive
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
to it yeah that's not uncommon
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
but luckily that does not happen
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
to me
pothead_parent:
yeah that's good i'm jealous i wish i could eat em can't just litter
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
consume it in every way possible i enjoy drink all cut either she doesn't care he'll
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
do all of it
andrew_deangelo:
yeah i'm pretty much like that too
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
but i mean there's nothing like you know inhaling really good
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
hash a really good flower there's you know it's
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
kind of like
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
um it's the closest thing i guess we would have to a wine
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
experience
pothead_parent:
exactly
andrew_deangelo:
because we have we have a lot of turpins and flavinoids like wine
pothead_parent:
okay
andrew_deangelo:
has and so
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
you know it's so that's what i love and and i love
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
small growers i love craft cannabis i love
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
um hearing all the stories about small batch production and now that's i think the way in the future
pothead_parent:
for
andrew_deangelo:
for
pothead_parent:
sure
andrew_deangelo:
people who really love high quality cannabis
pothead_parent:
we're actually moving so officially you're atually the first person to know this but we're moving back to buffalo and the reason i'm bringing this up we just found this out two days ago were actually moving in like a week so the legalization in new york is there but it's not no one has a clue what is going on in buffalo but there are some small batch growers there that i mean some of those some of the stuff there grow in the smell of it i want to make into an airfreshener it's like there's
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
so much good weed there that guys are afraid to come to the surface and be like hey i've been growing in buffalo new york for the last fifteen twenty years like i could easily do this already have the process but like what do you see with new york being like i mean not the city but like we're in western new york buffalo like what do you see being hurtle
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
for them to get over oh
andrew_deangelo:
yah
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
h well it's it's going to be licensing regulation
pothead_parent:
m oh
andrew_deangelo:
and taxes and competing with the underground market i mean that's
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
that's going to be now you've got those growers are probably if their weeds really good there their biggest
pothead_parent:
my
andrew_deangelo:
problem is getting busted right so
pothead_parent:
oh yeah yes
andrew_deangelo:
the weed itself has probably got a good
pothead_parent:
h
andrew_deangelo:
market
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and good prices and they make a decent living
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
and you know they're probably not getting super rich because they're small right
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
so they don't get caught but they live a good upper middle class life you know my advice would be to stay there for a minute
pothead_parent:
yeah right that's good advice bcasetwe're going to watch this too so at's good
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
okay
andrew_deangelo:
i mean because new york program is the first
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
mover advantage is going to require a lot of capital
pothead_parent:
hm
andrew_deangelo:
and you're just going to need a ship ton of money man to capitalize
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
on the first for advantage in new york the second
pothead_parent:
a
andrew_deangelo:
movers and the third movers in a place like
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
buffalo
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
do really well man you know and
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
so let the m s s open their shops and get their first wave or whatever you know
pothead_parent:
true
andrew_deangelo:
in there but you know a town like buffalo is perfectly positioned to have what i call regional entrepreneurs like you your ambitions are more than just being having one shop or being a mom and pop right you have a little bit bigger ambition than that but you don't want a global domination you don't want to be like
pothead_parent:
no
andrew_deangelo:
true leave or anything
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
like that and so buffalo
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
is a really good place and western new york and albany and you know
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
outside the five burrows i think is a good place
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
to be everyone's going be zigging to the five burrows zagging
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
outside the five burrows is you know
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
i mean don't
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
get me wrong it's going to be very active
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
outside of the five burrows too and there's
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
gonna be a lot of entrepremorial
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
activity how many
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
people really know what they're doing and how many people know
pothead_parent:
oh oh
andrew_deangelo:
what they don't
pothead_parent:
no
andrew_deangelo:
know right so that they call
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
somebody like me does know
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and to help them you know build their business so
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
you know there's there's
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
a lot of i think opportunity
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
actually outside of the five burrows and i like
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
the micro
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
business license in new york i think people can make that work
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
i like um i like the social equity you know provisions you know at least on paper they're pretty good
pothead_parent:
all right
andrew_deangelo:
you of course they're rolling out real clumsy
pothead_parent:
oh oh
andrew_deangelo:
and i suspect they'll continue to roll out clumsy but but you know the biggest problem in new york is going to be the same problem we've had in california it's just
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
will the government and the regulators creative framework that allows legal
pothead_parent:
go
andrew_deangelo:
license
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
market to
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
compete with the unregulated unlicensed market and if the answer is no
pothead_parent:
um
andrew_deangelo:
and the legal market is only going to get about twenty
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
five percent
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
of the overall market
pothead_parent:
need to work
andrew_deangelo:
and then
pothead_parent:
together
andrew_deangelo:
yeah i mean no one to crack the code on the framework to get everybody in um and new york is no exception that they're having terrible problems in the in the five burrows and with
pothead_parent:
m oh
andrew_deangelo:
the gray market and eric adams
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
and a lot of people want to crack down on it and they are
pothead_parent:
god
andrew_deangelo:
cracking down on it and they are
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
shutting people down and doing smashing grabs and they might start prosecuting people so you know you're starting to see this
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
prohibition to point o sort of emerge
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
in the five burrows a little bit and and they're going
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
to get put you know the big companies
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
are going to lobby for more enforcement
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
against license operators
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
so it's going to be hard
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
in new york for a little while here all
pothead_parent:
h
andrew_deangelo:
that activity all
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
those conflicts all those
pothead_parent:
a
andrew_deangelo:
competing
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
interests
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
all the learning that needs to happen
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
it's going to be kind of
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
rough waters for a while but
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
if you want to build
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
something authentic
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
and real like you're talking about and place like buffalo by all means you can do it i mean the opportunity
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
is there there are people smoking weed
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
in buffalo they
pothead_parent:
all
andrew_deangelo:
need
pothead_parent:
over
andrew_deangelo:
pensories they need consumption lounges
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
they want that they want a nice community center they can go
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
to m and m and be you know yeah harsh winters there i could see consumption lounges
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
doing really well you
pothead_parent:
it's
andrew_deangelo:
know
pothead_parent:
the goal
andrew_deangelo:
in a place like buffalo get
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
people out of the cold weather get
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
them with other people get them
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
warm get them carrying
pothead_parent:
stone
andrew_deangelo:
canovas gather hot chocolate coffee drinks
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
hopeful you know all that stuff and you know you can start to imagine it so i think
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
i'm
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
i think it's a good move actually for you to go back
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
there i was i was kind of surprised you left there in the first place but i think it's smart to go back there huge opportunities i think
pothead_parent:
it was really nice to be able to plant some seeds out here because we're not west coast people we didn't know anybody out from the west coast we weren't you know it was really great to be able to meet some awesome people talk about you know more than just buffalo and new york in general you know so i go to see the dispenser the processes because we're gonna come back there and people know they still message is hey how do i go to a dispensary where do i go like we're just going to hold a class of like hey where a pretend dispensary come in like it like you're sayin there's so much
andrew_deangelo:
no
pothead_parent:
opportunity
andrew_deangelo:
it's
pothead_parent:
there
andrew_deangelo:
mark
pothead_parent:
s crazy
andrew_deangelo:
yeah it was really smart for you to do that and get out of the
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
get into a legal state where
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
you can really experience what's happening right
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
the good the bad and the ugly
pothead_parent:
exactly
andrew_deangelo:
i mean i'm sure you've seen you've seen a lot
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
of things that you would do differently right
pothead_parent:
absoactly
andrew_deangelo:
in nevada and you
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
know and
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
it's like the when get in the legal market there's really two
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
you quickly learn those two choices you can
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
create a turn and burn experience and get as many people into your dispenser and out as
pothead_parent:
h
andrew_deangelo:
quickly as you can and
pothead_parent:
h
andrew_deangelo:
upset them and do all this stuff and
pothead_parent:
hm
andrew_deangelo:
don't invest a lot of money in a customer experience or de
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
cool
pothead_parent:
ye
andrew_deangelo:
you know just get him in get him out
pothead_parent:
yep
andrew_deangelo:
turn and burn
pothead_parent:
yep
andrew_deangelo:
and people make money doing that
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
and then there's you know the other vision
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
is to invest a little bit more
pothead_parent:
ah
andrew_deangelo:
in the experience
pothead_parent:
ah experience
andrew_deangelo:
and certofyeah and the customers
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and the products
pothead_parent:
yet
andrew_deangelo:
and maybe
pothead_parent:
the reason
andrew_deangelo:
having
pothead_parent:
of
andrew_deangelo:
stuff
pothead_parent:
why you're doing this what we're doing
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
this for more meaning to it than just the money in the monetary end of it
andrew_deangelo:
and it's probably gonna be smaller but it's probably got to be more imbedded in the community that it's
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
in and an ill be fun it will be
pothead_parent:
it's
andrew_deangelo:
fun
pothead_parent:
a different
andrew_deangelo:
to go to
pothead_parent:
type
andrew_deangelo:
work
pothead_parent:
of
andrew_deangelo:
here
pothead_parent:
success for you
andrew_deangelo:
yeah it's a different it's a different type of thing and
pothead_parent:
when this gets big
andrew_deangelo:
i
pothead_parent:
we want you in buffalo that wings pizza weed it's
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
ill ver well make it happen that's our next goal next one is you
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
come out to buffalo we make that happen
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
i mean i would love to
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
i remember when we first
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
there were a couple of other people reached out from buffalo not just you guys
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and you know i wasn't able to
pothead_parent:
uh
andrew_deangelo:
it's still so early
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
so none of those folks were able to do anything quite yet but
pothead_parent:
h
andrew_deangelo:
but
pothead_parent:
m making it happen
andrew_deangelo:
i
pothead_parent:
i put that in the universe
andrew_deangelo:
when the
pothead_parent:
it's
andrew_deangelo:
snow
pothead_parent:
happening
andrew_deangelo:
storm you
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
know i was really thinking of you guys in buffalo when the snow storm
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
came through and i was you know
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
i'm sure the media made it seem a
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
lot more worse than it actually was but
pothead_parent:
no it was
andrew_deangelo:
i was that
pothead_parent:
my
andrew_deangelo:
definitely
pothead_parent:
parents
andrew_deangelo:
feeling
pothead_parent:
our families was still there it was a very buffalo has been through quite a bit this past year between you know the shooting at tops happened in what was
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
it may and then you know this storm they're cleaning up messes um families are hurting in so many different ways show it's um it was wild it was a wild ride that they've been through the it was hard to watch from afar i'll say that and stuck out here knowing that
andrew_deangelo:
at
pothead_parent:
your home town was tough to do anything
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
it was hard for me and i was just watching on t v so yeah um but
pothead_parent:
another
andrew_deangelo:
you know
pothead_parent:
question for you because you know i'm following on one more this is that i promise
andrew_deangelo:
okay
pothead_parent:
if you're only allowed to change one thing in the cannabis industry tomorrow and it happens would it be i know you got a lot under your belt
andrew_deangelo:
it's a
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
really great question
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
i think you know i'm not going to
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
say public policy or taxes or regulation
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
or anything like
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
that
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
what
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
i'm always wanting a
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
unity is the thing we're missing um and it doesn't matter there's just it doesn't matter if
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
we're within this owner community or the medical community
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
or
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
the investor community or the finance community
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
or m s s or we're all
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
one big industry
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
community
pothead_parent:
uh
andrew_deangelo:
really
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
and we're not getting along very good the unity is not there that's why we haven't been able to improve
pothead_parent:
uh
andrew_deangelo:
the frameworks that's why we haven't been able to
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
make more progress
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
in places like the v a if we had
pothead_parent:
hm
andrew_deangelo:
more unity we could
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
make a lot of change
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
pretty quickly we could write our own loss we could
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
write our own taxes we could this this is a pay to play political system
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
i mean everybody knows that right is prett clear so
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
if you don't
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
pay you won't get to play and you will get
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
played um
pothead_parent:
hm
andrew_deangelo:
and that's what's happening and so i would change unity if we had more unity
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
um we could get everybody out of prison
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
we could fix the
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
we could just do so much
pothead_parent:
ah
andrew_deangelo:
a lot faster than we're able to do now
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and you know so people are still building
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
motes instead
pothead_parent:
um
andrew_deangelo:
of tearing down walls and
pothead_parent:
hm
andrew_deangelo:
so that's what
pothead_parent:
ah
andrew_deangelo:
i would change over night if i could more unity amongst us
pothead_parent:
it's like the seeds and the roots of the trees of you know the canvas industry are out we got to get to the stump we got to get rmftheriwe got we got to get to the stumps you know we can get to the fruit of the tree the beauty of all of this and that's when it all
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
comes together i love it
andrew_deangelo:
yeah it's hard
pothead_parent:
your true inspiration you motivated us in the beginning you continue to motivate us as we watch you day to day um we just want to thank you so much for everything that you do and what you've done for us and coming on today and talking to us and telling us about your story and you know i appreciate it so much thank you very much
andrew_deangelo:
what
pothead_parent:
we know you're more than busy enough going on and we appreciate this more than you'll now
andrew_deangelo:
well this is my favorite thing to do in the whole world and all the parents and pets out there listening
pothead_parent:
es
andrew_deangelo:
you know stay strong stay
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
active
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
and keep engaging
pothead_parent:
ye
andrew_deangelo:
with everybody around you and it'll
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
it'll be frustrating at
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
times and it'll be other times where it'll
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
be really uplifting because you'll make some progress in
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
it just day by day and together
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
we'll all get there
pothead_parent:
hey man appreciate that so much thank you again our next podcast will be from buffalo with you right
andrew_deangelo:
all
pothead_parent:
whether
andrew_deangelo:
right
pothead_parent:
it's virtual
andrew_deangelo:
looking
pothead_parent:
or not
andrew_deangelo:
forward to it all right
pothead_parent:
all right thank you so much i'm just
andrew_deangelo:
right
pothead_parent:
just its top it'll count down
welcome to pod had parent we are lucky enough to have an amazing and motivational face time with our guest a couple of months ago and that was back when we first started out and now we're honored to have the opportunity to interview andrew de angelo today thank you for being with us thank you so much for coming on i am
andrew_deangelo:
nice to be with you nice to be with you
pothead_parent:
i wanted to just jump in and give the perfect intro i went on your website if no one has been on it you need to get on there and check out what andrew has done he is there's a lot so like overwhelming
andrew_deangelo:
oh
pothead_parent:
it's like i don't know where to start or say or so andrew was one of the few people to have owned and operated cannabis companies in the lay i see medical and adult use markets on both coasts of the united states as an activist for the last thirty five years andrew health legalized medical and adult use cannabis in california and washing n d c andrew co founded the last prisoner project with his brother steve in twenty nineteen l p p's mission is to free and to re integrate all canapist prisoners into main scenes main stream society since in inception in twenty nineteen l p p has successfully freed and reentered the formerly incarcerated into society and has provided is is for education housing and professional development to their constituents l p p is one of the more successful social justice non profits doing this work andrew is a trimbuter to forbes magazine where he writes about canabis business and culture he also has written for playboy m jabs daily green ontrefenour canabis now honey cycle magazine and so many others thank you so much for being here with us we know you are a pro in the cannabis field but you have so many more layers obviously um with you being one of the trail leaders ere's to this with your journey where are you right now what have you been up to at this moment
andrew_deangelo:
well thanks for asking i am doing three
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
main things in my life and my post harbor side life many listeners might know
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
me and my brother steve from our time with harbor side that's our
pothead_parent:
hmm
andrew_deangelo:
oh medical and adeltus dispensaries that we own that you referred to a moment ago
pothead_parent:
that's where i met
andrew_deangelo:
and
pothead_parent:
you on weed wars
andrew_deangelo:
yes weed wars the first reality t v show
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
about
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
legal candabist
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
so
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and now i'm helping other entrepreneurs build bear cannabis dispensaries their canvas companies as a consultant and a strategic advisor
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
i like doing that work because it enables me to build more than one company at a time so i have more of an impact
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
in a greater geographical area for the industry then
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
i do just building one company in one state
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
and on that to make my living i
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
am also chair
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
person of the board of
pothead_parent:
he
andrew_deangelo:
directors of last prisoner project
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
and that takes up about twenty five per cent of
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
my time it's a lot it's a volunteer position but
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
as you mentioned where trying to get people out of prison and um who've been working with this plant in one way
pothead_parent:
a
andrew_deangelo:
or another
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
for a long time and and it's slow going i must say
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
that work is really hard and they're locking up
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
they're locking them up or we can get him out unfortunately especially
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
at the federal level ut but we we carry on we continue on the community
pothead_parent:
did he
andrew_deangelo:
your listeners so many people have been supportive you guys
pothead_parent:
please
andrew_deangelo:
it's
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
just been amazing the communities really responded to the mission and the call and so as long as we're able to get everybody
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
to keep supporting l p p we're going to keep taking that energy
pothead_parent:
ah
andrew_deangelo:
and trying to get people out
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
of prison so i do that and as you mentioned i try to write and speak and create
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
and and nd
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
contribute to canvas pop culture and thought leadership
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
as much as i can that i wish
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
i could do a lot mo or that work than i'm
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
actually able to have time to do
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
as i'm sure we all are but but
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
those are basically the three things i do in my life right now and
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
and you know it's a very challenging moment for the canvas industry the legal cannavis industry is very tough moment right now
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and so it's important that we all stick
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
together and try especially those of us that are not big
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
companies or big m s s are just grinding
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
it out on the grass s level
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
you know it's important we stick together right now it's
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
a tough time
pothead_parent:
right that was a big thing it was really nice a couple i mean was that almost seven months ago when we first started yeah it went by really fast you spoke to us and you talked to us about you know honoring our legacy growers and you know being a part of you know the education piece of the cannabis culture rather and you know the fun pop culture instagrant that's not what we're trying to do and that's not what you're completely trying to do so i appreciate you know someone like you is able to give that messaging from the front end of talking to these prisoners who are you know in jail still or going in or coming out and getting into the world now which is definitely a transition which i'm sure you know derrick as a transition from know even being from over seas a military and then coming home so it's great to be able to have a network of people with the last prisoner project that are there for them you know when they get out as well we saw it first hand we became friends actually with mario ramos over the last probably year or so so i met him standing outside i think i asked him for a lighter like it was just the most random conversation but we've grown and seen him grow over the last year and to see the support that we're actually hanging up with them at biskan to see the support that they have one getting out of there and then when they come out of there to have a job to have the support system to have a phone to have somewhere to go i was great see because like in the military like she's saying you get out of the military and you're out like good luck see you later you're probably goin up killing yourself that's the sad truth of it and they don't really seem to care but to see that care and support gettin t was very nice to see i do have one question for you that's kind of out of the box from the beginning of it all because i know i mean this candavis thing isn't new to you you've been smoking for quite some time
andrew_deangelo:
oh
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
yes
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
i've been smoking weed now almost forty years
pothead_parent:
well we i mean so do you remember your first time
andrew_deangelo:
oh sure you never get your first
pothead_parent:
so
andrew_deangelo:
time
pothead_parent:
what was that like that i have to ask we always asked this question
andrew_deangelo:
because of my older brother street steve you know
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
i was introduced at a pretty young age
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
and and when i was i don't know thirteen or four
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
team maybe a little older for some reason
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
i took some edibles some
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
weed brownies that my brother made i can't remember what motivated
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
that happen
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
but i did and it was not like
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
he shoved him down my throat i just was i just
pothead_parent:
it was your moment yeah
andrew_deangelo:
yeah yeah i just said
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
yes at that moment
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
and it was we had
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
a
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
it was a rainy night and my brother was going out and doing a bunch of rounds for his weed business in those
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
days and and you know he gave me these brownies and
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
and i had a great experience you know
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and and then
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
i didn't really take canovas for a few
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
years because i was an athlete after that first experience and the first experienc
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
was more just it was a kind of a psychodelic experience and it was
pothead_parent:
ye
andrew_deangelo:
it was really there was a lot of uphoria
pothead_parent:
for
andrew_deangelo:
and just
pothead_parent:
ah
andrew_deangelo:
experiencing something new that i not experienced before and
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
i was pretty young so
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
it really might it was like spring water
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
so i really felt
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
the medicine
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
and and
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
had a great experience but
pothead_parent:
but
andrew_deangelo:
but didn't take it for a few years later
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
and then i got hurt when i was an athlete in my
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
dream to be a professional athlete was over when i was in high school and then i started taking cannabis more regularly to deal
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
with physical and really psychic pain emotional pain spiritual pain
pothead_parent:
ye
andrew_deangelo:
and
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
that's when all the light bulbs went off
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
now this was nineteen eighty three or whatever and and i realize
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
that
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
there's something to this that needs more of my attention
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
and and so my brother was
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
already nee deep in activism and canadas
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
trading and all kinds of things so i was easy i was lucky it was easy for me to plug
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
into something that was already pretty well developing my brother and then just contribute from there
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and learn from their end you know the rest
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
is hypstory as we say and so that was my start
pothead_parent:
now with your brother it started you getting into the legal end of things when he actually got inhersorated correct
andrew_deangelo:
well that was now you're going back even before my smoke my first experiences with canavis yes my brother's first arrest was when he was eighteen i was nine
pothead_parent:
oh wow
andrew_deangelo:
so steve's about ten years old let me so
pothead_parent:
oh so you at a first
andrew_deangelo:
it was
pothead_parent:
hand
andrew_deangelo:
for possession we're hearing a lot about
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
this with joe baton so it was for
pothead_parent:
h
andrew_deangelo:
possession it was a federal charge
pothead_parent:
a
andrew_deangelo:
because he was going to
pothead_parent:
it
andrew_deangelo:
an airport and
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
and they locked him up for about i don't know four or five months and then he had to go on
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
probation all that kind of stuff and this is for i don't know half a joint or something ridiculously
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
small
pothead_parent:
my gosh
andrew_deangelo:
amount of weak um and and i
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
was nine years old we had to go visiting my parents took me to the jail
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
to visit my brother because now that's what families
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
do when you have people locked up as you
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
go visit them and you bring the kids
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
and you bring try to bring people right because when when you're locked up having visitors is super important you know you should go visit people that you love that are locked up
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
as much as you can
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
it helps nothing
pothead_parent:
to
andrew_deangelo:
helps a
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
prisoner more than that other than maybe getting a letter using the phone
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
but these are the things that allow people to do their time without completely losing their minds or like you said
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
harming themselves maybe
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
so um
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
so it's really important so we went as a family and i was nine years old and you know when you're nine
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
years old they still pat you down they still search you they
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
still make you
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
go through all the protocols that you know that that everybody else has to go through and and all that
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
had a pretty big
pothead_parent:
yah
andrew_deangelo:
impact on me it was a scary intimidating
pothead_parent:
h
andrew_deangelo:
awful
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
experience
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
and i felt bad
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
for my brother and and you know he was in there
pothead_parent:
m yeah
andrew_deangelo:
and we had to talk on the phone to
pothead_parent:
ok
andrew_deangelo:
the
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
in those days they didn't have the pole the glass they just
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
had bars
pothead_parent:
us
andrew_deangelo:
and like mesh like a lot of mesh and and you had the phone
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
because
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
i don't know there was a lot of noise so you couldn't really hear
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
anybody and and plus they wanted to record everything i guess
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
so and it was this little country jail in the middle nowhere and we had to drive
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
for hours and hours and hours to get there
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
my
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
parents were divorced so it was very awkward no ride to the jail
pothead_parent:
hm
andrew_deangelo:
because my mom couldn't drive for
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
that long period of time by yourself and
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
and so
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
you know it was one of those very weird
pothead_parent:
her
andrew_deangelo:
we're
pothead_parent:
work
andrew_deangelo:
terrible experiences you
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
have a little kid that's really plants
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and plant you know really
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
makes an impression on your mind and your heart and your spirit and
pothead_parent:
it's
andrew_deangelo:
so
pothead_parent:
a trauma
andrew_deangelo:
i never yeah and you know all your neighbors know about it and they're asking you about
pothead_parent:
a
andrew_deangelo:
it and all your friends at school are like
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
oh your brothers in jail on by bland
pothead_parent:
a oh
andrew_deangelo:
and it makes you feel very all
pothead_parent:
it's a lot to
andrew_deangelo:
and
pothead_parent:
deal
andrew_deangelo:
it
pothead_parent:
with
andrew_deangelo:
makes
pothead_parent:
too at
andrew_deangelo:
you
pothead_parent:
that age is a lot
andrew_deangelo:
yeah it's a lot to deal with right and so that was before you know that was just the effects of the drug war and the were on cannabis that had on our family and i guess it was probably inevitable that i would grow up to be who i am you know
pothead_parent:
eh
andrew_deangelo:
from that experience
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
because you know it was so dramatic
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
and i knew
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
my brother to be a good person before he went
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
to prison and all the people at the prison
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
made him seem like a bad person
pothead_parent:
h
andrew_deangelo:
because you know there lecturing
pothead_parent:
a
andrew_deangelo:
you about don't
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
end up like your brother and you don't want to end up in here and blahblablah all this stuff that cops you know tell you
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
m and i had to be alone with
pothead_parent:
ah
andrew_deangelo:
the cops because my parents went and visit him before i did because there
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
was only so much room in the visitor
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
booth
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
that you had to stand
pothead_parent:
hm
andrew_deangelo:
in and so so anyhow or they didn't let us i forget they probably n't let us all in there together at the
pothead_parent:
okay
andrew_deangelo:
same time that would have been too humane but um so i was alone with these jailers and they were lecturing
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
me about and
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
telling me about my brother being so bad i knew that my brother was good and so it seemed like a lie to me and it
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
seemed like they were lying they were totally lying to me and fact they as i got older i realized they were lying to me and certainly
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
when i started smoking we i was like this is definitely ly a lie
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
you're
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
getting me so uh that
pothead_parent:
that was just based
andrew_deangelo:
yeah you're
pothead_parent:
on
andrew_deangelo:
right
pothead_parent:
generational
andrew_deangelo:
had a
pothead_parent:
issues
andrew_deangelo:
big impact
pothead_parent:
then
andrew_deangelo:
on me it had a huge impact on my life going to visit my brother in jail you right
pothead_parent:
and that's pretty much what attracted you into the cannabis industry and working with others especially now with the last prisoner project in being a part of that with your brother with all of that trauma and you know those things happening you still succeeded quite well through college i actually wrote a quote online and you stated i forcedet to have a stellar college experience in both academics and weed i was an honoured
andrew_deangelo:
uh
pothead_parent:
student served in the set in the student senate all four years um and i realized this probably isn't one of your most you know famous quotes of any means but it definitely stuck out to me because it was a full explanation of how you can be sick cessful and get through things in life any traumas clearly or you know learn from it work through it and create something you know with it you gave zero funk about what anybody thought about you as well as your brother steve and i feel like that you know it was something you grew into from what you're talking about and what we're what we're saying from what you're happening in your past um but with that i just want to say or ask was there a time where you felt you needed to hide your
andrew_deangelo:
oh sure
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
the way it was in the nineteen eighties when i was in high school in college was you had to
pothead_parent:
ah
andrew_deangelo:
communicate with other stones and people who loved cannabis in code
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
so you couldn't have a little this says last prisoner project on it you couldn't have something with a weed leaf
pothead_parent:
a
andrew_deangelo:
on it that you wore because
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
if you had something ith a weed leaf on it that you wore in nineteen eighty five nineteen six they'd search you
pothead_parent:
she
andrew_deangelo:
um and they search your locker they search your car they searched they stop you on the street in search of and so it was much different time it was really dangerous so yeah we
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
away i used to go into
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
the woods my friends pretty deep into
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
the woods the suburban woods you know
pothead_parent:
sounds like my
andrew_deangelo:
and
pothead_parent:
childhood too i did it
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
on a
andrew_deangelo:
i
pothead_parent:
bridge
andrew_deangelo:
mean we
pothead_parent:
out
andrew_deangelo:
all
pothead_parent:
in the woods
andrew_deangelo:
we all we hit our us
pothead_parent:
yah
andrew_deangelo:
we went into the woods we went where adults wouldn't
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
go and in those days we had a lot more freedom to roam around as kids than you do now i think
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
but but but you know we were
pothead_parent:
ye
andrew_deangelo:
roaming around all over the place and
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
trying to find any dark alley or woods
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
or anywhere
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
we wouldn't get caught but if you got caught the hammer came down on you pretty hard in those days so you had to work
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
really hard not to get caught and
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
because i i've been trained by my older bro steve not to get caught i
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
was walking for ways into the woods before i take my wet out and smoke it because i didn't want to get caught
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
and then in college you know
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
i sold wheat through the storms and that was a harroweene experienc it's right because i would lose my scholarship it get kicked out of school
pothead_parent:
he
andrew_deangelo:
all this terrible thing would happen so
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
i had to i had to devise some very
pothead_parent:
there
andrew_deangelo:
elaborate systems
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
to make sure that i could do that in a safe way in the storms and
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
so yeah we had to hide
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
our use and we even have a little
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
it's with each other are you going to the the grateful debtor coming into town are you going to the show yeah i'm going to the show okay that means you smoke
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
weed let's go to smoke and join what kind of music do you listen to i like bob marley oh that
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
means
pothead_parent:
mean
andrew_deangelo:
you smoke weed let's go smoke it joint
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
um um and you know there were little codes
pothead_parent:
as
andrew_deangelo:
like that you might have a
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
hemp him a little hemp
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
bracelet on um in the nineties they are very popular if you were a stone or
pothead_parent:
h
andrew_deangelo:
you'd add a little hemp
pothead_parent:
h i was
andrew_deangelo:
necklace
pothead_parent:
a little kid
andrew_deangelo:
or
pothead_parent:
and had one
andrew_deangelo:
yeah right they got really big
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
for a while everybody had one but in the
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
beginning they were a little code and let people know
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
hey this is half i smoke we
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
let's go smoke weed and and it was great in the sense that it brought us together you know
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
in ways that are very
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
unique because you had you had to establish trust with people very quickly because you are breaking a lot together
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
and you could get in serious trouble together
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and so you had to trust that you weren't going to snitch each other out
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
or you know you were going to be smart and you weren't going to like walk into your parents house with
pothead_parent:
no
andrew_deangelo:
you know blood
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
stuck on to your shirt or something um and um
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and and you know that's that's how it was in some
pothead_parent:
ye
andrew_deangelo:
in some respects it was it was kind of cool in those days because you had that
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
instant bond and trust with people once you figured out that you are both
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
owners and you could smoke joint
pothead_parent:
it
andrew_deangelo:
but you know sometimes you went for a long time i mean i would know someone six months sometimes twelve months a year
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
before i realized that they smoked weed and i smoked
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
week um and wow i've known you all this time
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
we could have been smoking weed
pothead_parent:
ye
andrew_deangelo:
together and you were too afraid to tell me you
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
smoked eat and i was afraid to tell and we didn't have the code because i don't
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
know you were dere i was in the theater department and you were in the business department or
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
whatever and
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
and the codes just weren't present in the same way and so we didn't hook up as stones
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
together so it was very
pothead_parent:
very
andrew_deangelo:
different and yes we definitely hit our use we we we if you
pothead_parent:
h
andrew_deangelo:
were a trader
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
or grower you always had some other
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
kind of straight job you know make sure you are following your taxes
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
and that
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
you know you had a good
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
story if anybody you know asked
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
you any questions
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
in the interrogation room you could say oh yeah i deliver pizas
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
here's my pay text stubs um and and you had to do all those kind of things right whereas yeah
pothead_parent:
i go
andrew_deangelo:
i deliver pizasbut that's just the cover story
pothead_parent:
so
andrew_deangelo:
for you know i'm dealing
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
weed were i'm growing weak and that's how i'm really making money that pizis just you know
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
keeps
pothead_parent:
used to
andrew_deangelo:
me
pothead_parent:
call
andrew_deangelo:
in peace
pothead_parent:
plaza for years that's what i used to call weed i used
andrew_deangelo:
it's
pothead_parent:
to test
andrew_deangelo:
a
pothead_parent:
my gum i need some pizza that was the code word for quite some time actually still is but it's funny because you
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
say like people coming out of the wood works like with what we're doing with parents veterans and stuff like how many parents just messages like hey man i've been a stoner for like five years no one knows and like guys like you got to talk about this or so many people that you know consume or they think they think they don't smoke but they do because they don't actually smoke it like so i'm gonna put
andrew_deangelo:
right
pothead_parent:
my i'm gonna put my father on the spot here he we took him out the other night would take him to his first dispensary and he walks in and he's talking talking he goes yeah he goes so where do i get some weed why are you whispering they sell cannabis here this is what they do
andrew_deangelo:
yes
pothead_parent:
now he's
andrew_deangelo:
right
pothead_parent:
almost sixty so he's in that stigma of he's on the line like okay i get it but i don't want anybody to
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
know about it but it's just it's educating the people that you know there's so many people that use it that you would have no clue professionals doctors athletes i mean everybody it's crazy right because it truly brings a different person out of us right if we are in tune with who we are we're able to engage ourselves a little differently when we are under the influence of canabas and people have always seen it as being a negative thing but it's shown that there are so many successful people that do consume cannabis on regular daily and a lot of people don't even know about it and then they find out and here like well that's no that's not true don't know it is true it's just the ignorance behind it they don't want to believe that it's it's that's the tough part with the cation it's like whether you agree with it or not if you want to use it or not that's cool but like kids nowadays are growing up in legal weed you have to talk to your children if you don't you're going to have that lazy stoner kid that's hiding from you that's going to be unproductive like you have to talk to your kids it's it's a different
andrew_deangelo:
right
pothead_parent:
word we're on up
andrew_deangelo:
or or you know
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
or if you don't talk to your kids and educate them they may find
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
themselves in a situation that they don't know how to react to
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
um and you know with the fentinal and all this going around right now um to not talk about these things you know there are a lot of parents that have gone to a lot of funerals the last few years and they will
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
tell you that i should have talked more about it
pothead_parent:
absolutely
andrew_deangelo:
and so it's really good
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
work that you're doing
pothead_parent:
ah
andrew_deangelo:
because those two groups parents and veterans they are
pothead_parent:
a oh
andrew_deangelo:
such need of the medicine and
pothead_parent:
high stress
andrew_deangelo:
so ray
pothead_parent:
and
andrew_deangelo:
so much stigma and so much fear in those communities to come forward your trade you're going to lose your kids that that
pothead_parent:
hm
andrew_deangelo:
child protective services all these um down stream of facts that the average person doesn't even think about when you're
pothead_parent:
no
andrew_deangelo:
talking about legalization and the lawmakers
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
don't protect parents after legalizing all these little things that people
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
don't think of that you have to do so
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
it's on a policy level and also on a cultural level right so
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
that people will feel comfortable coming out of the closet and because most of their neighbors and people they admire
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and respect are in the glade to or
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
a
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
lot of em are and so it's really the first
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
step of anybody being active with cannabis
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
active list
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and i don't like to use that word just because it seems like you know you're burning down the house in the streets and that's not
pothead_parent:
hm
andrew_deangelo:
really what you're doing
pothead_parent:
no
andrew_deangelo:
what activists do is they
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
activate people and
pothead_parent:
yeah oh
andrew_deangelo:
they educate people they get people to
pothead_parent:
engage
andrew_deangelo:
cast their votes cast their votes a little differently perhaps or engage within their communities a little differently
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
perhaps or be more
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
tolerant of we chop down the street
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
so these
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
are things that
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
our first active activism is coming out of the closet
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
saying hey this is part of my life and
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
it should be part of years two and here's why or it could be part of years
pothead_parent:
no
andrew_deangelo:
two or maybe it should be part of yours two and here's why
pothead_parent:
ah
andrew_deangelo:
why it helped me why i'm talking
pothead_parent:
he
andrew_deangelo:
about this right now and that's
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
the first step once people start doing that
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
then
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
your uncles and your aunts
pothead_parent:
dan
andrew_deangelo:
and your parents and grandparents
pothead_parent:
yeh
andrew_deangelo:
and the people around the dinner pable and even the kids even
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
the teen agers
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
they'll
pothead_parent:
of
andrew_deangelo:
start to get real information that's not misinformation and it's
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
not lives perhaps and that makes
pothead_parent:
a
andrew_deangelo:
people feel more comfortable that maybe i can consider something like cannabis if i
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
should get cancer or if i should
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
give birth to a child with epilepsy or if i should
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
you know get
pothead_parent:
okay
andrew_deangelo:
chronic
pothead_parent:
indeed
andrew_deangelo:
pain because
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
you're aging right
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and twenty percent of all adults over the age of fifty
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
have chronic pain
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
um and that's that's
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
i don't know i don't know that's probably fifty million people right there
pothead_parent:
i'm i'm
andrew_deangelo:
in the united
pothead_parent:
a way under fifty and i have chronic pain every day just from the military like it's and
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
they feed
andrew_deangelo:
you know
pothead_parent:
you pills instead of canabus i went to the v
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
a real quick the other day for different things but literally labeled me with a cannabis use disorder i'm like are we going here now on my record and i'm actually proud of it i'll take that i don't care
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
because
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
the gentleman that was next to me was snorting fenton all for seven days so
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
why we were in the same area not really sure but and then i proceeded to talk to this doctor and said i asked me a question how many people in this hospital are like withdrawing from canabus like you know was being an so then she goes i go oh nobody oh that's weird okay i said my itching and sweating and my feeding and my throwing up and my withdrawing she didn't ant to have the conversation any more politely left the room so it's like love been under this huge taboo i mean i remember learning about cannabis during dar class in high i mean an elementary
andrew_deangelo:
uh
pothead_parent:
school in fifth grade and you know that's something that we want to plement and push is like just like we pushed the taboo now of what cannavis is or was to everybody we need to now show that it's not it helps people medicinally and then if you even go further down you can use it with your hem products i know you know you work very closely with a brand and being able to use it for your gens or your clothing or i saw you with pot holders or you can build a house with it there's so
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
much more to this plant not just consuming its it's implementing it in our life style in every single way
andrew_deangelo:
so true and your experience
pothead_parent:
ah
andrew_deangelo:
at the v is just sad story right when you're surrounded by people that are on
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
their way to death with this ventinal
pothead_parent:
mhm
andrew_deangelo:
and you're
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
given this
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
mariwata use disorder
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
i don't know label or tag whatever
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
it is
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
i don't know if that's gonna have an impact on you
pothead_parent:
hopefully
andrew_deangelo:
or not
pothead_parent:
not we'll find out very shortly here but it's it's
andrew_deangelo:
i
pothead_parent:
you
andrew_deangelo:
imagine
pothead_parent:
know they don't make
andrew_deangelo:
it
pothead_parent:
care it's crazy
andrew_deangelo:
yeah i
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
mean i imagine that does have negative impacts on some that
pothead_parent:
h
andrew_deangelo:
and
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
it's a shame because canovas is the gateway out
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
of fentinal
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
canovas is the gateway out of harrowing out of these harder
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
drugs in
pothead_parent:
ah
andrew_deangelo:
not
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
one hundred percent of every single case but a lot of
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
people and i've
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
seen it for twenty years been working with these
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
communities i've seen time and time again
pothead_parent:
yeh
andrew_deangelo:
people come up to me and say it was the weed
pothead_parent:
ah
andrew_deangelo:
that got me off the pills okay
pothead_parent:
hm
andrew_deangelo:
and no one
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
wants to be on pills no one wants to be strung out on fentinal these are conditions and sicknesses
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
that people have they're in pain of one kind or another physical pain emotional pain psychic pain and people don't deal with pain
pothead_parent:
no
andrew_deangelo:
they
pothead_parent:
the tough
andrew_deangelo:
will kill their pain or
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
they will manage their pain hopefully manage their pain
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and and this is where we want things like meditation like exercise
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
like
pothead_parent:
like
andrew_deangelo:
physical therapy and yes
pothead_parent:
a
andrew_deangelo:
like canvas and plant medicines you play a role
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
in getting people well
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
right and getting
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
people paying addressed in a good
pothead_parent:
ye
andrew_deangelo:
way in a way
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
that's not go kill them
pothead_parent:
h
andrew_deangelo:
right because oh i relapsed and i took some fentinal
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
with that i thought was something else and now i'm dead
pothead_parent:
yep
andrew_deangelo:
and my family has to bury me and my friends have to bury me and it's it's
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
awful you know it's awful what's going on out there and so it's really
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
sad to hear the v a being like that after all this time you know and we've done a lot of
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
education with the v a i'm sure you've done your
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
own education with the v a it's not like they haven't
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
heard the education it's not like the science
pothead_parent:
i know
andrew_deangelo:
is not available
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
to them they're just being dick's okay
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
i mean that's just the only way to
pothead_parent:
it
andrew_deangelo:
describe it
pothead_parent:
h
andrew_deangelo:
and
pothead_parent:
m oh
andrew_deangelo:
and our veterans
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
deserve a lot better you know and everyone talks but that's deserving all
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
these all the devotion that they do deserve from us and then they don't get
pothead_parent:
death
andrew_deangelo:
it you know and then they get treated like this
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and i don't know it kisses me off as
pothead_parent:
no
andrew_deangelo:
an american and as someone who
pothead_parent:
ah
andrew_deangelo:
works with these communities and
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
i mean we could
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
there could be all kinds of canvas healing with that psychodalic healing with
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
that it could all be operational right now there's no reason it couldn't be it's just it anson
pothead_parent:
it's
andrew_deangelo:
and politics
pothead_parent:
took the words right out of my mouth plus more but it's like and i told them for years because i got hooked on pills a long time ago was going to three different actors but you know through my records of ten and twelve years at the v a do you think there is any label or comment in there that i told them i was addicted to opioids please do not give me it anymore there's no opio juice disorder anywhere in my record it's like
andrew_deangelo:
wow
pothead_parent:
you got to be kidding me but you know i got a cannabis use disorder so i'll stick with that and roll with that but just it's pathetic it really is and it needs to chang like you're saying it can change they just you know blind i they don't care it's just the ignorance to it it's sad it will
andrew_deangelo:
i've
pothead_parent:
change
andrew_deangelo:
heard
pothead_parent:
one day
andrew_deangelo:
that changes from region region did
pothead_parent:
yah
andrew_deangelo:
you find it got better
pothead_parent:
yah
andrew_deangelo:
when you moved or was it basically the same
pothead_parent:
the care
andrew_deangelo:
just how they view cannabis in the bottom
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
versus
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
somewhere
pothead_parent:
it's funny
andrew_deangelo:
else
pothead_parent:
like out here i mean everybody smokes weed so they don't really care but you know they're looking to pin something on you and it's like you like oh you smoke weed and like yeah like everybody probably your employes that work here too and you know they're just looking to taggi with stuff like when i went
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
in there they made me she's like ell how is your pain i go i'm always in pain and like i don't know it's a three and she was making me give her a specific area that hurts so she could prescribe me muscle relaxers i was like are you trying to make me tell you something hurts because this is not like this is not okay and i told her what i do for living i said actually educate veterans on how not to get fucked over at the v a and stories that have happened so it's like there's so much that needs to change there eventually it's going though they're not going to have a choice but it's i think the veterans are going to be a big big name in the push to get this legalized as far as in
andrew_deangelo:
i
pothead_parent:
the v
andrew_deangelo:
think you're
pothead_parent:
or anything
andrew_deangelo:
right i see
pothead_parent:
what
andrew_deangelo:
a lot of activism
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
happening in the in the veteran community right now leaders like you are holding the flag and leading the charge and it's great because
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
change needs to occur there really
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
really badly
pothead_parent:
too many people die in way too young too many kids left behind too many wives families it's just it's it's got to stop it's from twenty two a day now to forty four a day statistically it's like what other flag do you need go up in the air like hello i mean it's
andrew_deangelo:
wow
pothead_parent:
wild
andrew_deangelo:
that's so sad i'm so sorry to
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
hear that i didn't know it was that high now
pothead_parent:
yeah it's up to twenty two for forty four a day now so it's
andrew_deangelo:
yah
pothead_parent:
it's crazy
andrew_deangelo:
m
pothead_parent:
i did want to ask you a couple more questions
andrew_deangelo:
yes
pothead_parent:
kind of break it up a little bit but in a smoking circle what's your biggest pot peef'agoodone
andrew_deangelo:
oh you know i'm pretty forgiven in a smoking
pothead_parent:
ah
andrew_deangelo:
circle
pothead_parent:
you're ready
andrew_deangelo:
i
pothead_parent:
high
andrew_deangelo:
think
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
that yeah i mean i'm pretty forgiving one of the pet pas i have right now is
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
when people aren't mindful that we're still
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
in a covid um reality um
pothead_parent:
o
andrew_deangelo:
and so they get a little reckless with with how they're consuming or sharing
pothead_parent:
or even preparing
andrew_deangelo:
a
pothead_parent:
oh my god the ways that
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
you can prepare now there's so many other ways besides using your saliva and just getting all in an to smoke
andrew_deangelo:
well
pothead_parent:
my own
andrew_deangelo:
and
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
just yeah there's
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
different there's just different ways
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
of holding a drink so it doesn't touch your mouth and
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
you know just so that's
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
one of my pet peas because
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
you know the covid is still happening
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
we're still in this respiratory
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
you know sickness reality
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
that we're living in so
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
that but i'm pretty forgiving man once you're in a circle i'm so happy that you're there and that
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
we're
pothead_parent:
love
andrew_deangelo:
all sharing
pothead_parent:
that
andrew_deangelo:
tunovis together that you know if you bogart the join or you get
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
or it goes out or the cherry comes out or whatever
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
you know it's like
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
it's all right
pothead_parent:
i love that that's how i am i'm
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
like whatever who cares this one who's like my pet paves the burn that just hate i'm going basset can
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
pass it just just going away
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
like i'll
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
get there man it will happen you'll get it we'll all get it we'll all share
andrew_deangelo:
gentle
pothead_parent:
it
andrew_deangelo:
gentle
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
reminders i am
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
a believer in gentle reminder
pothead_parent:
it's a little hey which over there
andrew_deangelo:
yeah i mean i'm not going to just sit
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
there and not say anything
pothead_parent:
yeah you got to say something it's like some good weed can you not let it burn that long place
andrew_deangelo:
yeah i'm
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
not
pothead_parent:
love
andrew_deangelo:
gonna
pothead_parent:
it
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
or no what do you say that i do is when half of it she canesitevtime i don't she
andrew_deangelo:
oh
pothead_parent:
prefers belike song so when she smokes a blunt or a joint she wax on it like you can't do that and it's like a cigar taking a little slow nice and smooth turn it like she she just
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
wants to take the thing right down and then you know whole thing runs and it well that's my second question what's your favorite way to consume oh
andrew_deangelo:
wow it's changed over the years you know but i still love smoking hash
pothead_parent:
yeah m
andrew_deangelo:
so that's really
pothead_parent:
old school
andrew_deangelo:
you know
pothead_parent:
that's old school
andrew_deangelo:
still i still love
pothead_parent:
love
andrew_deangelo:
really
pothead_parent:
it
andrew_deangelo:
good flower too
pothead_parent:
ship
andrew_deangelo:
but you know old school
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
water hash i love finger hash is really my favorite finger hashes when you're harvesting wheat and and the
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
sticky stuff gets on your fingers and you rub it and
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
its hash basically
pothead_parent:
hm
andrew_deangelo:
um and i love finger hash so and i just love good clean regenerative sun one
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
cannabis that's really what i'm into and that's what i seek out luckily here in california i'm able to get that pretty much year around but but in a lot of play it's hard you know it's harder to get the sun grown but but that's what i love to consume i also take a lot of edibles because you know i can't i can't inhale as much cannabis at my age as i could you know forty years ago when i first started so i do i still i take a lot of capsules basically hopes capsules
pothead_parent:
her we had sometimes our son so were the podheadparents likes to make a cameo appearance so he just ran on the door so missy's grabbing him but the consumption
andrew_deangelo:
okay
pothead_parent:
like you're saying yeah i'm a blunt guy i like to roll my own joints but were like were trying to educate on our end like myself i started taking edibles and like hey i want to stop smoking i just don't want to physically smoke um they kill my stomach i don't know what it is but like that oil or whatever in my stomach
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
it's
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
like a four or five day thing it's horrible
andrew_deangelo:
m
pothead_parent:
um
andrew_deangelo:
right
pothead_parent:
and i tried it a couple of times or i'm like okay maybe i was just a bad batch or from a different state but no it's just what do they call that sea see something like where the oil in your stomach people get sick from it
andrew_deangelo:
yeah it's not uncommon t's not uncommon that people get a little bit of of that
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
people that are sensitive
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
to it yeah that's not uncommon
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
but luckily that does not happen
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
to me
pothead_parent:
yeah that's good i'm jealous i wish i could eat em can't just litter
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
consume it in every way possible i enjoy drink all cut either she doesn't care he'll
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
do all of it
andrew_deangelo:
yeah i'm pretty much like that too
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
but i mean there's nothing like you know inhaling really good
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
hash a really good flower there's you know it's
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
kind of like
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
um it's the closest thing i guess we would have to a wine
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
experience
pothead_parent:
exactly
andrew_deangelo:
because we have we have a lot of turpins and flavinoids like wine
pothead_parent:
okay
andrew_deangelo:
has and so
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
you know it's so that's what i love and and i love
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
small growers i love craft cannabis i love
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
um hearing all the stories about small batch production and now that's i think the way in the future
pothead_parent:
for
andrew_deangelo:
for
pothead_parent:
sure
andrew_deangelo:
people who really love high quality cannabis
pothead_parent:
we're actually moving so officially you're atually the first person to know this but we're moving back to buffalo and the reason i'm bringing this up we just found this out two days ago were actually moving in like a week so the legalization in new york is there but it's not no one has a clue what is going on in buffalo but there are some small batch growers there that i mean some of those some of the stuff there grow in the smell of it i want to make into an airfreshener it's like there's
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
so much good weed there that guys are afraid to come to the surface and be like hey i've been growing in buffalo new york for the last fifteen twenty years like i could easily do this already have the process but like what do you see with new york being like i mean not the city but like we're in western new york buffalo like what do you see being hurtle
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
for them to get over oh
andrew_deangelo:
yah
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
h well it's it's going to be licensing regulation
pothead_parent:
m oh
andrew_deangelo:
and taxes and competing with the underground market i mean that's
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
that's going to be now you've got those growers are probably if their weeds really good there their biggest
pothead_parent:
my
andrew_deangelo:
problem is getting busted right so
pothead_parent:
oh yeah yes
andrew_deangelo:
the weed itself has probably got a good
pothead_parent:
h
andrew_deangelo:
market
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and good prices and they make a decent living
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
and you know they're probably not getting super rich because they're small right
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
so they don't get caught but they live a good upper middle class life you know my advice would be to stay there for a minute
pothead_parent:
yeah right that's good advice bcasetwe're going to watch this too so at's good
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
okay
andrew_deangelo:
i mean because new york program is the first
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
mover advantage is going to require a lot of capital
pothead_parent:
hm
andrew_deangelo:
and you're just going to need a ship ton of money man to capitalize
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
on the first for advantage in new york the second
pothead_parent:
a
andrew_deangelo:
movers and the third movers in a place like
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
buffalo
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
do really well man you know and
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
so let the m s s open their shops and get their first wave or whatever you know
pothead_parent:
true
andrew_deangelo:
in there but you know a town like buffalo is perfectly positioned to have what i call regional entrepreneurs like you your ambitions are more than just being having one shop or being a mom and pop right you have a little bit bigger ambition than that but you don't want a global domination you don't want to be like
pothead_parent:
no
andrew_deangelo:
true leave or anything
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
like that and so buffalo
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
is a really good place and western new york and albany and you know
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
outside the five burrows i think is a good place
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
to be everyone's going be zigging to the five burrows zagging
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
outside the five burrows is you know
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
i mean don't
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
get me wrong it's going to be very active
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
outside of the five burrows too and there's
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
gonna be a lot of entrepremorial
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
activity how many
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
people really know what they're doing and how many people know
pothead_parent:
oh oh
andrew_deangelo:
what they don't
pothead_parent:
no
andrew_deangelo:
know right so that they call
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
somebody like me does know
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and to help them you know build their business so
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
you know there's there's
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
a lot of i think opportunity
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
actually outside of the five burrows and i like
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
the micro
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
business license in new york i think people can make that work
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
i like um i like the social equity you know provisions you know at least on paper they're pretty good
pothead_parent:
all right
andrew_deangelo:
you of course they're rolling out real clumsy
pothead_parent:
oh oh
andrew_deangelo:
and i suspect they'll continue to roll out clumsy but but you know the biggest problem in new york is going to be the same problem we've had in california it's just
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
will the government and the regulators creative framework that allows legal
pothead_parent:
go
andrew_deangelo:
license
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
market to
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
compete with the unregulated unlicensed market and if the answer is no
pothead_parent:
um
andrew_deangelo:
and the legal market is only going to get about twenty
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
five percent
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
of the overall market
pothead_parent:
need to work
andrew_deangelo:
and then
pothead_parent:
together
andrew_deangelo:
yeah i mean no one to crack the code on the framework to get everybody in um and new york is no exception that they're having terrible problems in the in the five burrows and with
pothead_parent:
m oh
andrew_deangelo:
the gray market and eric adams
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
and a lot of people want to crack down on it and they are
pothead_parent:
god
andrew_deangelo:
cracking down on it and they are
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
shutting people down and doing smashing grabs and they might start prosecuting people so you know you're starting to see this
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
prohibition to point o sort of emerge
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
in the five burrows a little bit and and they're going
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
to get put you know the big companies
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
are going to lobby for more enforcement
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
against license operators
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
so it's going to be hard
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
in new york for a little while here all
pothead_parent:
h
andrew_deangelo:
that activity all
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
those conflicts all those
pothead_parent:
a
andrew_deangelo:
competing
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
interests
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
all the learning that needs to happen
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
it's going to be kind of
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
rough waters for a while but
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
if you want to build
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
something authentic
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
and real like you're talking about and place like buffalo by all means you can do it i mean the opportunity
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
is there there are people smoking weed
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
in buffalo they
pothead_parent:
all
andrew_deangelo:
need
pothead_parent:
over
andrew_deangelo:
pensories they need consumption lounges
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
they want that they want a nice community center they can go
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
to m and m and be you know yeah harsh winters there i could see consumption lounges
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
doing really well you
pothead_parent:
it's
andrew_deangelo:
know
pothead_parent:
the goal
andrew_deangelo:
in a place like buffalo get
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
people out of the cold weather get
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
them with other people get them
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
warm get them carrying
pothead_parent:
stone
andrew_deangelo:
canovas gather hot chocolate coffee drinks
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
hopeful you know all that stuff and you know you can start to imagine it so i think
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
i'm
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
i think it's a good move actually for you to go back
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
there i was i was kind of surprised you left there in the first place but i think it's smart to go back there huge opportunities i think
pothead_parent:
it was really nice to be able to plant some seeds out here because we're not west coast people we didn't know anybody out from the west coast we weren't you know it was really great to be able to meet some awesome people talk about you know more than just buffalo and new york in general you know so i go to see the dispenser the processes because we're gonna come back there and people know they still message is hey how do i go to a dispensary where do i go like we're just going to hold a class of like hey where a pretend dispensary come in like it like you're sayin there's so much
andrew_deangelo:
no
pothead_parent:
opportunity
andrew_deangelo:
it's
pothead_parent:
there
andrew_deangelo:
mark
pothead_parent:
s crazy
andrew_deangelo:
yeah it was really smart for you to do that and get out of the
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
get into a legal state where
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
you can really experience what's happening right
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
the good the bad and the ugly
pothead_parent:
exactly
andrew_deangelo:
i mean i'm sure you've seen you've seen a lot
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
of things that you would do differently right
pothead_parent:
absoactly
andrew_deangelo:
in nevada and you
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
know and
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
it's like the when get in the legal market there's really two
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
you quickly learn those two choices you can
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
create a turn and burn experience and get as many people into your dispenser and out as
pothead_parent:
h
andrew_deangelo:
quickly as you can and
pothead_parent:
h
andrew_deangelo:
upset them and do all this stuff and
pothead_parent:
hm
andrew_deangelo:
don't invest a lot of money in a customer experience or de
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
cool
pothead_parent:
ye
andrew_deangelo:
you know just get him in get him out
pothead_parent:
yep
andrew_deangelo:
turn and burn
pothead_parent:
yep
andrew_deangelo:
and people make money doing that
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
and then there's you know the other vision
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
is to invest a little bit more
pothead_parent:
ah
andrew_deangelo:
in the experience
pothead_parent:
ah experience
andrew_deangelo:
and certofyeah and the customers
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and the products
pothead_parent:
yet
andrew_deangelo:
and maybe
pothead_parent:
the reason
andrew_deangelo:
having
pothead_parent:
of
andrew_deangelo:
stuff
pothead_parent:
why you're doing this what we're doing
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
this for more meaning to it than just the money in the monetary end of it
andrew_deangelo:
and it's probably gonna be smaller but it's probably got to be more imbedded in the community that it's
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
in and an ill be fun it will be
pothead_parent:
it's
andrew_deangelo:
fun
pothead_parent:
a different
andrew_deangelo:
to go to
pothead_parent:
type
andrew_deangelo:
work
pothead_parent:
of
andrew_deangelo:
here
pothead_parent:
success for you
andrew_deangelo:
yeah it's a different it's a different type of thing and
pothead_parent:
when this gets big
andrew_deangelo:
i
pothead_parent:
we want you in buffalo that wings pizza weed it's
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
ill ver well make it happen that's our next goal next one is you
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
come out to buffalo we make that happen
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
i mean i would love to
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
i remember when we first
pothead_parent:
i
andrew_deangelo:
there were a couple of other people reached out from buffalo not just you guys
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and you know i wasn't able to
pothead_parent:
uh
andrew_deangelo:
it's still so early
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
so none of those folks were able to do anything quite yet but
pothead_parent:
h
andrew_deangelo:
but
pothead_parent:
m making it happen
andrew_deangelo:
i
pothead_parent:
i put that in the universe
andrew_deangelo:
when the
pothead_parent:
it's
andrew_deangelo:
snow
pothead_parent:
happening
andrew_deangelo:
storm you
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
know i was really thinking of you guys in buffalo when the snow storm
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
came through and i was you know
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
i'm sure the media made it seem a
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
lot more worse than it actually was but
pothead_parent:
no it was
andrew_deangelo:
i was that
pothead_parent:
my
andrew_deangelo:
definitely
pothead_parent:
parents
andrew_deangelo:
feeling
pothead_parent:
our families was still there it was a very buffalo has been through quite a bit this past year between you know the shooting at tops happened in what was
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
it may and then you know this storm they're cleaning up messes um families are hurting in so many different ways show it's um it was wild it was a wild ride that they've been through the it was hard to watch from afar i'll say that and stuck out here knowing that
andrew_deangelo:
at
pothead_parent:
your home town was tough to do anything
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
it was hard for me and i was just watching on t v so yeah um but
pothead_parent:
another
andrew_deangelo:
you know
pothead_parent:
question for you because you know i'm following on one more this is that i promise
andrew_deangelo:
okay
pothead_parent:
if you're only allowed to change one thing in the cannabis industry tomorrow and it happens would it be i know you got a lot under your belt
andrew_deangelo:
it's a
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
really great question
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
i think you know i'm not going to
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
say public policy or taxes or regulation
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
or anything like
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
that
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
what
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
i'm always wanting a
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
unity is the thing we're missing um and it doesn't matter there's just it doesn't matter if
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
we're within this owner community or the medical community
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
or
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
the investor community or the finance community
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
or m s s or we're all
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
one big industry
pothead_parent:
yes
andrew_deangelo:
community
pothead_parent:
uh
andrew_deangelo:
really
pothead_parent:
right
andrew_deangelo:
and we're not getting along very good the unity is not there that's why we haven't been able to improve
pothead_parent:
uh
andrew_deangelo:
the frameworks that's why we haven't been able to
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
make more progress
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
in places like the v a if we had
pothead_parent:
hm
andrew_deangelo:
more unity we could
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
make a lot of change
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
pretty quickly we could write our own loss we could
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
write our own taxes we could this this is a pay to play political system
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
i mean everybody knows that right is prett clear so
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
if you don't
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
pay you won't get to play and you will get
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
played um
pothead_parent:
hm
andrew_deangelo:
and that's what's happening and so i would change unity if we had more unity
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
um we could get everybody out of prison
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
we could fix the
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
we could just do so much
pothead_parent:
ah
andrew_deangelo:
a lot faster than we're able to do now
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
and you know so people are still building
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
motes instead
pothead_parent:
um
andrew_deangelo:
of tearing down walls and
pothead_parent:
hm
andrew_deangelo:
so that's what
pothead_parent:
ah
andrew_deangelo:
i would change over night if i could more unity amongst us
pothead_parent:
it's like the seeds and the roots of the trees of you know the canvas industry are out we got to get to the stump we got to get rmftheriwe got we got to get to the stumps you know we can get to the fruit of the tree the beauty of all of this and that's when it all
andrew_deangelo:
yeah
pothead_parent:
comes together i love it
andrew_deangelo:
yeah it's hard
pothead_parent:
your true inspiration you motivated us in the beginning you continue to motivate us as we watch you day to day um we just want to thank you so much for everything that you do and what you've done for us and coming on today and talking to us and telling us about your story and you know i appreciate it so much thank you very much
andrew_deangelo:
what
pothead_parent:
we know you're more than busy enough going on and we appreciate this more than you'll now
andrew_deangelo:
well this is my favorite thing to do in the whole world and all the parents and pets out there listening
pothead_parent:
es
andrew_deangelo:
you know stay strong stay
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
active
pothead_parent:
yeah
andrew_deangelo:
and keep engaging
pothead_parent:
ye
andrew_deangelo:
with everybody around you and it'll
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
it'll be frustrating at
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
times and it'll be other times where it'll
pothead_parent:
oh
andrew_deangelo:
be really uplifting because you'll make some progress in
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
it just day by day and together
pothead_parent:
m
andrew_deangelo:
we'll all get there
pothead_parent:
hey man appreciate that so much thank you again our next podcast will be from buffalo with you right
andrew_deangelo:
all
pothead_parent:
whether
andrew_deangelo:
right
pothead_parent:
it's virtual
andrew_deangelo:
looking
pothead_parent:
or not
andrew_deangelo:
forward to it all right
pothead_parent:
all right thank you so much i'm just
andrew_deangelo:
right
pothead_parent:
just its top it'll count down