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pothead_parent:
welcome to pod had parent we are lucky enough to have an amazing and motivational face time with our guest a couple of months ago and that was back when we first started out and now we're honored to have the opportunity to interview andrew de angelo today thank you for being with us thank you so much for coming on i am

andrew_deangelo:
nice to be with you nice to be with you

pothead_parent:
i wanted to just jump in and give the perfect intro i went on your website if no one has been on it you need to get on there and check out what andrew has done he is there's a lot so like overwhelming

andrew_deangelo:
oh

pothead_parent:
it's like i don't know where to start or say or so andrew was one of the few people to have owned and operated cannabis companies in the lay i see medical and adult use markets on both coasts of the united states as an activist for the last thirty five years andrew health legalized medical and adult use cannabis in california and washing n d c andrew co founded the last prisoner project with his brother steve in twenty nineteen l p p's mission is to free and to re integrate all canapist prisoners into main scenes main stream society since in inception in twenty nineteen l p p has successfully freed and reentered the formerly incarcerated into society and has provided is is for education housing and professional development to their constituents l p p is one of the more successful social justice non profits doing this work andrew is a trimbuter to forbes magazine where he writes about canabis business and culture he also has written for playboy m jabs daily green ontrefenour canabis now honey cycle magazine and so many others thank you so much for being here with us we know you are a pro in the cannabis field but you have so many more layers obviously um with you being one of the trail leaders ere's to this with your journey where are you right now what have you been up to at this moment

andrew_deangelo:
well thanks for asking i am doing three

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
main things in my life and my post harbor side life many listeners might know

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
me and my brother steve from our time with harbor side that's our

pothead_parent:
hmm

andrew_deangelo:
oh medical and adeltus dispensaries that we own that you referred to a moment ago

pothead_parent:
that's where i met

andrew_deangelo:
and

pothead_parent:
you on weed wars

andrew_deangelo:
yes weed wars the first reality t v show

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
about

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
legal candabist

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
so

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
and now i'm helping other entrepreneurs build bear cannabis dispensaries their canvas companies as a consultant and a strategic advisor

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
i like doing that work because it enables me to build more than one company at a time so i have more of an impact

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
in a greater geographical area for the industry then

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
i do just building one company in one state

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
and on that to make my living i

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
am also chair

pothead_parent:
yes

andrew_deangelo:
person of the board of

pothead_parent:
he

andrew_deangelo:
directors of last prisoner project

pothead_parent:
i

andrew_deangelo:
and that takes up about twenty five per cent of

pothead_parent:
i

andrew_deangelo:
my time it's a lot it's a volunteer position but

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
as you mentioned where trying to get people out of prison and um who've been working with this plant in one way

pothead_parent:
a

andrew_deangelo:
or another

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
for a long time and and it's slow going i must say

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
that work is really hard and they're locking up

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
they're locking them up or we can get him out unfortunately especially

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
at the federal level ut but we we carry on we continue on the community

pothead_parent:
did he

andrew_deangelo:
your listeners so many people have been supportive you guys

pothead_parent:
please

andrew_deangelo:
it's

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
just been amazing the communities really responded to the mission and the call and so as long as we're able to get everybody

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
to keep supporting l p p we're going to keep taking that energy

pothead_parent:
ah

andrew_deangelo:
and trying to get people out

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
of prison so i do that and as you mentioned i try to write and speak and create

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
and and nd

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
contribute to canvas pop culture and thought leadership

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
as much as i can that i wish

pothead_parent:
i

andrew_deangelo:
i could do a lot mo or that work than i'm

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
actually able to have time to do

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
as i'm sure we all are but but

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
those are basically the three things i do in my life right now and

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
and you know it's a very challenging moment for the canvas industry the legal cannavis industry is very tough moment right now

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
and so it's important that we all stick

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
together and try especially those of us that are not big

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
companies or big m s s are just grinding

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
it out on the grass s level

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
you know it's important we stick together right now it's

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
a tough time

pothead_parent:
right that was a big thing it was really nice a couple i mean was that almost seven months ago when we first started yeah it went by really fast you spoke to us and you talked to us about you know honoring our legacy growers and you know being a part of you know the education piece of the cannabis culture rather and you know the fun pop culture instagrant that's not what we're trying to do and that's not what you're completely trying to do so i appreciate you know someone like you is able to give that messaging from the front end of talking to these prisoners who are you know in jail still or going in or coming out and getting into the world now which is definitely a transition which i'm sure you know derrick as a transition from know even being from over seas a military and then coming home so it's great to be able to have a network of people with the last prisoner project that are there for them you know when they get out as well we saw it first hand we became friends actually with mario ramos over the last probably year or so so i met him standing outside i think i asked him for a lighter like it was just the most random conversation but we've grown and seen him grow over the last year and to see the support that we're actually hanging up with them at biskan to see the support that they have one getting out of there and then when they come out of there to have a job to have the support system to have a phone to have somewhere to go i was great see because like in the military like she's saying you get out of the military and you're out like good luck see you later you're probably goin up killing yourself that's the sad truth of it and they don't really seem to care but to see that care and support gettin t was very nice to see i do have one question for you that's kind of out of the box from the beginning of it all because i know i mean this candavis thing isn't new to you you've been smoking for quite some time

andrew_deangelo:
oh

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
yes

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
i've been smoking weed now almost forty years

pothead_parent:
well we i mean so do you remember your first time

andrew_deangelo:
oh sure you never get your first

pothead_parent:
so

andrew_deangelo:
time

pothead_parent:
what was that like that i have to ask we always asked this question

andrew_deangelo:
because of my older brother street steve you know

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
i was introduced at a pretty young age

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
and and when i was i don't know thirteen or four

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
team maybe a little older for some reason

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
i took some edibles some

pothead_parent:
yes

andrew_deangelo:
weed brownies that my brother made i can't remember what motivated

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
that happen

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
but i did and it was not like

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
he shoved him down my throat i just was i just

pothead_parent:
it was your moment yeah

andrew_deangelo:
yeah yeah i just said

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
yes at that moment

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
and it was we had

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
a

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
it was a rainy night and my brother was going out and doing a bunch of rounds for his weed business in those

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
days and and you know he gave me these brownies and

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
and i had a great experience you know

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
and and then

pothead_parent:
i

andrew_deangelo:
i didn't really take canovas for a few

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
years because i was an athlete after that first experience and the first experienc

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
was more just it was a kind of a psychodelic experience and it was

pothead_parent:
ye

andrew_deangelo:
it was really there was a lot of uphoria

pothead_parent:
for

andrew_deangelo:
and just

pothead_parent:
ah

andrew_deangelo:
experiencing something new that i not experienced before and

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
i was pretty young so

pothead_parent:
i

andrew_deangelo:
it really might it was like spring water

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
so i really felt

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
the medicine

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
and and

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
had a great experience but

pothead_parent:
but

andrew_deangelo:
but didn't take it for a few years later

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
and then i got hurt when i was an athlete in my

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
dream to be a professional athlete was over when i was in high school and then i started taking cannabis more regularly to deal

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
with physical and really psychic pain emotional pain spiritual pain

pothead_parent:
ye

andrew_deangelo:
and

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
that's when all the light bulbs went off

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
now this was nineteen eighty three or whatever and and i realize

pothead_parent:
yes

andrew_deangelo:
that

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
there's something to this that needs more of my attention

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
and and so my brother was

pothead_parent:
yes

andrew_deangelo:
already nee deep in activism and canadas

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
trading and all kinds of things so i was easy i was lucky it was easy for me to plug

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
into something that was already pretty well developing my brother and then just contribute from there

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
and learn from their end you know the rest

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
is hypstory as we say and so that was my start

pothead_parent:
now with your brother it started you getting into the legal end of things when he actually got inhersorated correct

andrew_deangelo:
well that was now you're going back even before my smoke my first experiences with canavis yes my brother's first arrest was when he was eighteen i was nine

pothead_parent:
oh wow

andrew_deangelo:
so steve's about ten years old let me so

pothead_parent:
oh so you at a first

andrew_deangelo:
it was

pothead_parent:
hand

andrew_deangelo:
for possession we're hearing a lot about

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
this with joe baton so it was for

pothead_parent:
h

andrew_deangelo:
possession it was a federal charge

pothead_parent:
a

andrew_deangelo:
because he was going to

pothead_parent:
it

andrew_deangelo:
an airport and

pothead_parent:
i

andrew_deangelo:
and they locked him up for about i don't know four or five months and then he had to go on

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
probation all that kind of stuff and this is for i don't know half a joint or something ridiculously

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
small

pothead_parent:
my gosh

andrew_deangelo:
amount of weak um and and i

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
was nine years old we had to go visiting my parents took me to the jail

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
to visit my brother because now that's what families

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
do when you have people locked up as you

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
go visit them and you bring the kids

pothead_parent:
yes

andrew_deangelo:
and you bring try to bring people right because when when you're locked up having visitors is super important you know you should go visit people that you love that are locked up

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
as much as you can

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
it helps nothing

pothead_parent:
to

andrew_deangelo:
helps a

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
prisoner more than that other than maybe getting a letter using the phone

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
but these are the things that allow people to do their time without completely losing their minds or like you said

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
harming themselves maybe

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
so um

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
so it's really important so we went as a family and i was nine years old and you know when you're nine

pothead_parent:
i

andrew_deangelo:
years old they still pat you down they still search you they

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
still make you

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
go through all the protocols that you know that that everybody else has to go through and and all that

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
had a pretty big

pothead_parent:
yah

andrew_deangelo:
impact on me it was a scary intimidating

pothead_parent:
h

andrew_deangelo:
awful

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
experience

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
and i felt bad

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
for my brother and and you know he was in there

pothead_parent:
m yeah

andrew_deangelo:
and we had to talk on the phone to

pothead_parent:
ok

andrew_deangelo:
the

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
in those days they didn't have the pole the glass they just

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
had bars

pothead_parent:
us

andrew_deangelo:
and like mesh like a lot of mesh and and you had the phone

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
because

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
i don't know there was a lot of noise so you couldn't really hear

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
anybody and and plus they wanted to record everything i guess

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
so and it was this little country jail in the middle nowhere and we had to drive

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
for hours and hours and hours to get there

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
my

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
parents were divorced so it was very awkward no ride to the jail

pothead_parent:
hm

andrew_deangelo:
because my mom couldn't drive for

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
that long period of time by yourself and

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
and so

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
you know it was one of those very weird

pothead_parent:
her

andrew_deangelo:
we're

pothead_parent:
work

andrew_deangelo:
terrible experiences you

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
have a little kid that's really plants

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
and plant you know really

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
makes an impression on your mind and your heart and your spirit and

pothead_parent:
it's

andrew_deangelo:
so

pothead_parent:
a trauma

andrew_deangelo:
i never yeah and you know all your neighbors know about it and they're asking you about

pothead_parent:
a

andrew_deangelo:
it and all your friends at school are like

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
oh your brothers in jail on by bland

pothead_parent:
a oh

andrew_deangelo:
and it makes you feel very all

pothead_parent:
it's a lot to

andrew_deangelo:
and

pothead_parent:
deal

andrew_deangelo:
it

pothead_parent:
with

andrew_deangelo:
makes

pothead_parent:
too at

andrew_deangelo:
you

pothead_parent:
that age is a lot

andrew_deangelo:
yeah it's a lot to deal with right and so that was before you know that was just the effects of the drug war and the were on cannabis that had on our family and i guess it was probably inevitable that i would grow up to be who i am you know

pothead_parent:
eh

andrew_deangelo:
from that experience

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
because you know it was so dramatic

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
and i knew

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
my brother to be a good person before he went

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
to prison and all the people at the prison

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
made him seem like a bad person

pothead_parent:
h

andrew_deangelo:
because you know there lecturing

pothead_parent:
a

andrew_deangelo:
you about don't

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
end up like your brother and you don't want to end up in here and blahblablah all this stuff that cops you know tell you

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
m and i had to be alone with

pothead_parent:
ah

andrew_deangelo:
the cops because my parents went and visit him before i did because there

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
was only so much room in the visitor

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
booth

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
that you had to stand

pothead_parent:
hm

andrew_deangelo:
in and so so anyhow or they didn't let us i forget they probably n't let us all in there together at the

pothead_parent:
okay

andrew_deangelo:
same time that would have been too humane but um so i was alone with these jailers and they were lecturing

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
me about and

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
telling me about my brother being so bad i knew that my brother was good and so it seemed like a lie to me and it

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
seemed like they were lying they were totally lying to me and fact they as i got older i realized they were lying to me and certainly

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
when i started smoking we i was like this is definitely ly a lie

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
you're

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
getting me so uh that

pothead_parent:
that was just based

andrew_deangelo:
yeah you're

pothead_parent:
on

andrew_deangelo:
right

pothead_parent:
generational

andrew_deangelo:
had a

pothead_parent:
issues

andrew_deangelo:
big impact

pothead_parent:
then

andrew_deangelo:
on me it had a huge impact on my life going to visit my brother in jail you right

pothead_parent:
and that's pretty much what attracted you into the cannabis industry and working with others especially now with the last prisoner project in being a part of that with your brother with all of that trauma and you know those things happening you still succeeded quite well through college i actually wrote a quote online and you stated i forcedet to have a stellar college experience in both academics and weed i was an honoured

andrew_deangelo:
uh

pothead_parent:
student served in the set in the student senate all four years um and i realized this probably isn't one of your most you know famous quotes of any means but it definitely stuck out to me because it was a full explanation of how you can be sick cessful and get through things in life any traumas clearly or you know learn from it work through it and create something you know with it you gave zero funk about what anybody thought about you as well as your brother steve and i feel like that you know it was something you grew into from what you're talking about and what we're what we're saying from what you're happening in your past um but with that i just want to say or ask was there a time where you felt you needed to hide your

andrew_deangelo:
oh sure

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
the way it was in the nineteen eighties when i was in high school in college was you had to

pothead_parent:
ah

andrew_deangelo:
communicate with other stones and people who loved cannabis in code

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
so you couldn't have a little this says last prisoner project on it you couldn't have something with a weed leaf

pothead_parent:
a

andrew_deangelo:
on it that you wore because

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
if you had something ith a weed leaf on it that you wore in nineteen eighty five nineteen six they'd search you

pothead_parent:
she

andrew_deangelo:
um and they search your locker they search your car they searched they stop you on the street in search of and so it was much different time it was really dangerous so yeah we

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
away i used to go into

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
the woods my friends pretty deep into

pothead_parent:
i

andrew_deangelo:
the woods the suburban woods you know

pothead_parent:
sounds like my

andrew_deangelo:
and

pothead_parent:
childhood too i did it

andrew_deangelo:
yeah

pothead_parent:
on a

andrew_deangelo:
i

pothead_parent:
bridge

andrew_deangelo:
mean we

pothead_parent:
out

andrew_deangelo:
all

pothead_parent:
in the woods

andrew_deangelo:
we all we hit our us

pothead_parent:
yah

andrew_deangelo:
we went into the woods we went where adults wouldn't

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
go and in those days we had a lot more freedom to roam around as kids than you do now i think

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
but but but you know we were

pothead_parent:
ye

andrew_deangelo:
roaming around all over the place and

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
trying to find any dark alley or woods

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
or anywhere

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
we wouldn't get caught but if you got caught the hammer came down on you pretty hard in those days so you had to work

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
really hard not to get caught and

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
because i i've been trained by my older bro steve not to get caught i

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
was walking for ways into the woods before i take my wet out and smoke it because i didn't want to get caught

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
and then in college you know

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
i sold wheat through the storms and that was a harroweene experienc it's right because i would lose my scholarship it get kicked out of school

pothead_parent:
he

andrew_deangelo:
all this terrible thing would happen so

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
i had to i had to devise some very

pothead_parent:
there

andrew_deangelo:
elaborate systems

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
to make sure that i could do that in a safe way in the storms and

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
so yeah we had to hide

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
our use and we even have a little

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
it's with each other are you going to the the grateful debtor coming into town are you going to the show yeah i'm going to the show okay that means you smoke

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
weed let's go to smoke and join what kind of music do you listen to i like bob marley oh that

pothead_parent:
i

andrew_deangelo:
means

pothead_parent:
mean

andrew_deangelo:
you smoke weed let's go smoke it joint

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
um um and you know there were little codes

pothead_parent:
as

andrew_deangelo:
like that you might have a

pothead_parent:
i

andrew_deangelo:
hemp him a little hemp

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
bracelet on um in the nineties they are very popular if you were a stone or

pothead_parent:
h

andrew_deangelo:
you'd add a little hemp

pothead_parent:
h i was

andrew_deangelo:
necklace

pothead_parent:
a little kid

andrew_deangelo:
or

pothead_parent:
and had one

andrew_deangelo:
yeah right they got really big

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
for a while everybody had one but in the

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
beginning they were a little code and let people know

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
hey this is half i smoke we

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
let's go smoke weed and and it was great in the sense that it brought us together you know

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
in ways that are very

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
unique because you had you had to establish trust with people very quickly because you are breaking a lot together

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
and you could get in serious trouble together

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
and so you had to trust that you weren't going to snitch each other out

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
or you know you were going to be smart and you weren't going to like walk into your parents house with

pothead_parent:
no

andrew_deangelo:
you know blood

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
stuck on to your shirt or something um and um

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
and and you know that's that's how it was in some

pothead_parent:
ye

andrew_deangelo:
in some respects it was it was kind of cool in those days because you had that

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
instant bond and trust with people once you figured out that you are both

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
owners and you could smoke joint

pothead_parent:
it

andrew_deangelo:
but you know sometimes you went for a long time i mean i would know someone six months sometimes twelve months a year

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
before i realized that they smoked weed and i smoked

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
week um and wow i've known you all this time

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
we could have been smoking weed

pothead_parent:
ye

andrew_deangelo:
together and you were too afraid to tell me you

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
smoked eat and i was afraid to tell and we didn't have the code because i don't

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
know you were dere i was in the theater department and you were in the business department or

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
whatever and

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
and the codes just weren't present in the same way and so we didn't hook up as stones

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
together so it was very

pothead_parent:
very

andrew_deangelo:
different and yes we definitely hit our use we we we if you

pothead_parent:
h

andrew_deangelo:
were a trader

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
or grower you always had some other

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
kind of straight job you know make sure you are following your taxes

pothead_parent:
yes

andrew_deangelo:
and that

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
you know you had a good

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
story if anybody you know asked

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
you any questions

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
in the interrogation room you could say oh yeah i deliver pizas

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
here's my pay text stubs um and and you had to do all those kind of things right whereas yeah

pothead_parent:
i go

andrew_deangelo:
i deliver pizasbut that's just the cover story

pothead_parent:
so

andrew_deangelo:
for you know i'm dealing

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
weed were i'm growing weak and that's how i'm really making money that pizis just you know

pothead_parent:
i

andrew_deangelo:
keeps

pothead_parent:
used to

andrew_deangelo:
me

pothead_parent:
call

andrew_deangelo:
in peace

pothead_parent:
plaza for years that's what i used to call weed i used

andrew_deangelo:
it's

pothead_parent:
to test

andrew_deangelo:
a

pothead_parent:
my gum i need some pizza that was the code word for quite some time actually still is but it's funny because you

andrew_deangelo:
yeah

pothead_parent:
say like people coming out of the wood works like with what we're doing with parents veterans and stuff like how many parents just messages like hey man i've been a stoner for like five years no one knows and like guys like you got to talk about this or so many people that you know consume or they think they think they don't smoke but they do because they don't actually smoke it like so i'm gonna put

andrew_deangelo:
right

pothead_parent:
my i'm gonna put my father on the spot here he we took him out the other night would take him to his first dispensary and he walks in and he's talking talking he goes yeah he goes so where do i get some weed why are you whispering they sell cannabis here this is what they do

andrew_deangelo:
yes

pothead_parent:
now he's

andrew_deangelo:
right

pothead_parent:
almost sixty so he's in that stigma of he's on the line like okay i get it but i don't want anybody to

andrew_deangelo:
yeah

pothead_parent:
know about it but it's just it's educating the people that you know there's so many people that use it that you would have no clue professionals doctors athletes i mean everybody it's crazy right because it truly brings a different person out of us right if we are in tune with who we are we're able to engage ourselves a little differently when we are under the influence of canabas and people have always seen it as being a negative thing but it's shown that there are so many successful people that do consume cannabis on regular daily and a lot of people don't even know about it and then they find out and here like well that's no that's not true don't know it is true it's just the ignorance behind it they don't want to believe that it's it's that's the tough part with the cation it's like whether you agree with it or not if you want to use it or not that's cool but like kids nowadays are growing up in legal weed you have to talk to your children if you don't you're going to have that lazy stoner kid that's hiding from you that's going to be unproductive like you have to talk to your kids it's it's a different

andrew_deangelo:
right

pothead_parent:
word we're on up

andrew_deangelo:
or or you know

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
or if you don't talk to your kids and educate them they may find

pothead_parent:
i

andrew_deangelo:
themselves in a situation that they don't know how to react to

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
um and you know with the fentinal and all this going around right now um to not talk about these things you know there are a lot of parents that have gone to a lot of funerals the last few years and they will

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
tell you that i should have talked more about it

pothead_parent:
absolutely

andrew_deangelo:
and so it's really good

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
work that you're doing

pothead_parent:
ah

andrew_deangelo:
because those two groups parents and veterans they are

pothead_parent:
a oh

andrew_deangelo:
such need of the medicine and

pothead_parent:
high stress

andrew_deangelo:
so ray

pothead_parent:
and

andrew_deangelo:
so much stigma and so much fear in those communities to come forward your trade you're going to lose your kids that that

pothead_parent:
hm

andrew_deangelo:
child protective services all these um down stream of facts that the average person doesn't even think about when you're

pothead_parent:
no

andrew_deangelo:
talking about legalization and the lawmakers

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
don't protect parents after legalizing all these little things that people

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
don't think of that you have to do so

pothead_parent:
yes

andrew_deangelo:
it's on a policy level and also on a cultural level right so

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
that people will feel comfortable coming out of the closet and because most of their neighbors and people they admire

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
and respect are in the glade to or

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
a

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
lot of em are and so it's really the first

pothead_parent:
yes

andrew_deangelo:
step of anybody being active with cannabis

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
active list

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
and i don't like to use that word just because it seems like you know you're burning down the house in the streets and that's not

pothead_parent:
hm

andrew_deangelo:
really what you're doing

pothead_parent:
no

andrew_deangelo:
what activists do is they

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
activate people and

pothead_parent:
yeah oh

andrew_deangelo:
they educate people they get people to

pothead_parent:
engage

andrew_deangelo:
cast their votes cast their votes a little differently perhaps or engage within their communities a little differently

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
perhaps or be more

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
tolerant of we chop down the street

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
so these

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
are things that

pothead_parent:
i

andrew_deangelo:
our first active activism is coming out of the closet

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
saying hey this is part of my life and

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
it should be part of years two and here's why or it could be part of years

pothead_parent:
no

andrew_deangelo:
two or maybe it should be part of yours two and here's why

pothead_parent:
ah

andrew_deangelo:
why it helped me why i'm talking

pothead_parent:
he

andrew_deangelo:
about this right now and that's

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
the first step once people start doing that

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
then

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
your uncles and your aunts

pothead_parent:
dan

andrew_deangelo:
and your parents and grandparents

pothead_parent:
yeh

andrew_deangelo:
and the people around the dinner pable and even the kids even

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
the teen agers

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
they'll

pothead_parent:
of

andrew_deangelo:
start to get real information that's not misinformation and it's

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
not lives perhaps and that makes

pothead_parent:
a

andrew_deangelo:
people feel more comfortable that maybe i can consider something like cannabis if i

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
should get cancer or if i should

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
give birth to a child with epilepsy or if i should

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
you know get

pothead_parent:
okay

andrew_deangelo:
chronic

pothead_parent:
indeed

andrew_deangelo:
pain because

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
you're aging right

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
and twenty percent of all adults over the age of fifty

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
have chronic pain

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
um and that's that's

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
i don't know i don't know that's probably fifty million people right there

pothead_parent:
i'm i'm

andrew_deangelo:
in the united

pothead_parent:
a way under fifty and i have chronic pain every day just from the military like it's and

andrew_deangelo:
yeah

pothead_parent:
they feed

andrew_deangelo:
you know

pothead_parent:
you pills instead of canabus i went to the v

andrew_deangelo:
yeah

pothead_parent:
a real quick the other day for different things but literally labeled me with a cannabis use disorder i'm like are we going here now on my record and i'm actually proud of it i'll take that i don't care

andrew_deangelo:
yeah

pothead_parent:
because

andrew_deangelo:
yeah

pothead_parent:
the gentleman that was next to me was snorting fenton all for seven days so

andrew_deangelo:
yeah

pothead_parent:
why we were in the same area not really sure but and then i proceeded to talk to this doctor and said i asked me a question how many people in this hospital are like withdrawing from canabus like you know was being an so then she goes i go oh nobody oh that's weird okay i said my itching and sweating and my feeding and my throwing up and my withdrawing she didn't ant to have the conversation any more politely left the room so it's like love been under this huge taboo i mean i remember learning about cannabis during dar class in high i mean an elementary

andrew_deangelo:
uh

pothead_parent:
school in fifth grade and you know that's something that we want to plement and push is like just like we pushed the taboo now of what cannavis is or was to everybody we need to now show that it's not it helps people medicinally and then if you even go further down you can use it with your hem products i know you know you work very closely with a brand and being able to use it for your gens or your clothing or i saw you with pot holders or you can build a house with it there's so

andrew_deangelo:
yeah

pothead_parent:
much more to this plant not just consuming its it's implementing it in our life style in every single way

andrew_deangelo:
so true and your experience

pothead_parent:
ah

andrew_deangelo:
at the v is just sad story right when you're surrounded by people that are on

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
their way to death with this ventinal

pothead_parent:
mhm

andrew_deangelo:
and you're

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
given this

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
mariwata use disorder

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
i don't know label or tag whatever

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
it is

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
and

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
i don't know if that's gonna have an impact on you

pothead_parent:
hopefully

andrew_deangelo:
or not

pothead_parent:
not we'll find out very shortly here but it's it's

andrew_deangelo:
i

pothead_parent:
you

andrew_deangelo:
imagine

pothead_parent:
know they don't make

andrew_deangelo:
it

pothead_parent:
care it's crazy

andrew_deangelo:
yeah i

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
mean i imagine that does have negative impacts on some that

pothead_parent:
h

andrew_deangelo:
and

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
it's a shame because canovas is the gateway out

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
of fentinal

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
canovas is the gateway out of harrowing out of these harder

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
drugs in

pothead_parent:
ah

andrew_deangelo:
not

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
one hundred percent of every single case but a lot of

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
people and i've

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
seen it for twenty years been working with these

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
communities i've seen time and time again

pothead_parent:
yeh

andrew_deangelo:
people come up to me and say it was the weed

pothead_parent:
ah

andrew_deangelo:
that got me off the pills okay

pothead_parent:
hm

andrew_deangelo:
and no one

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
wants to be on pills no one wants to be strung out on fentinal these are conditions and sicknesses

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
that people have they're in pain of one kind or another physical pain emotional pain psychic pain and people don't deal with pain

pothead_parent:
no

andrew_deangelo:
they

pothead_parent:
the tough

andrew_deangelo:
will kill their pain or

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
they will manage their pain hopefully manage their pain

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
and and this is where we want things like meditation like exercise

pothead_parent:
i

andrew_deangelo:
like

pothead_parent:
like

andrew_deangelo:
physical therapy and yes

pothead_parent:
a

andrew_deangelo:
like canvas and plant medicines you play a role

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
in getting people well

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
right and getting

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
people paying addressed in a good

pothead_parent:
ye

andrew_deangelo:
way in a way

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
that's not go kill them

pothead_parent:
h

andrew_deangelo:
right because oh i relapsed and i took some fentinal

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
with that i thought was something else and now i'm dead

pothead_parent:
yep

andrew_deangelo:
and my family has to bury me and my friends have to bury me and it's it's

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
awful you know it's awful what's going on out there and so it's really

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
sad to hear the v a being like that after all this time you know and we've done a lot of

pothead_parent:
i

andrew_deangelo:
education with the v a i'm sure you've done your

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
own education with the v a it's not like they haven't

pothead_parent:
yes

andrew_deangelo:
heard the education it's not like the science

pothead_parent:
i know

andrew_deangelo:
is not available

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
to them they're just being dick's okay

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
i mean that's just the only way to

pothead_parent:
it

andrew_deangelo:
describe it

pothead_parent:
h

andrew_deangelo:
and

pothead_parent:
m oh

andrew_deangelo:
and our veterans

pothead_parent:
yes

andrew_deangelo:
deserve a lot better you know and everyone talks but that's deserving all

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
these all the devotion that they do deserve from us and then they don't get

pothead_parent:
death

andrew_deangelo:
it you know and then they get treated like this

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
and i don't know it kisses me off as

pothead_parent:
no

andrew_deangelo:
an american and as someone who

pothead_parent:
ah

andrew_deangelo:
works with these communities and

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
i mean we could

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
there could be all kinds of canvas healing with that psychodalic healing with

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
that it could all be operational right now there's no reason it couldn't be it's just it anson

pothead_parent:
it's

andrew_deangelo:
and politics

pothead_parent:
took the words right out of my mouth plus more but it's like and i told them for years because i got hooked on pills a long time ago was going to three different actors but you know through my records of ten and twelve years at the v a do you think there is any label or comment in there that i told them i was addicted to opioids please do not give me it anymore there's no opio juice disorder anywhere in my record it's like

andrew_deangelo:
wow

pothead_parent:
you got to be kidding me but you know i got a cannabis use disorder so i'll stick with that and roll with that but just it's pathetic it really is and it needs to chang like you're saying it can change they just you know blind i they don't care it's just the ignorance to it it's sad it will

andrew_deangelo:
i've

pothead_parent:
change

andrew_deangelo:
heard

pothead_parent:
one day

andrew_deangelo:
that changes from region region did

pothead_parent:
yah

andrew_deangelo:
you find it got better

pothead_parent:
yah

andrew_deangelo:
when you moved or was it basically the same

pothead_parent:
the care

andrew_deangelo:
just how they view cannabis in the bottom

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
versus

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
somewhere

pothead_parent:
it's funny

andrew_deangelo:
else

pothead_parent:
like out here i mean everybody smokes weed so they don't really care but you know they're looking to pin something on you and it's like you like oh you smoke weed and like yeah like everybody probably your employes that work here too and you know they're just looking to taggi with stuff like when i went

andrew_deangelo:
yeah

pothead_parent:
in there they made me she's like ell how is your pain i go i'm always in pain and like i don't know it's a three and she was making me give her a specific area that hurts so she could prescribe me muscle relaxers i was like are you trying to make me tell you something hurts because this is not like this is not okay and i told her what i do for living i said actually educate veterans on how not to get fucked over at the v a and stories that have happened so it's like there's so much that needs to change there eventually it's going though they're not going to have a choice but it's i think the veterans are going to be a big big name in the push to get this legalized as far as in

andrew_deangelo:
i

pothead_parent:
the v

andrew_deangelo:
think you're

pothead_parent:
or anything

andrew_deangelo:
right i see

pothead_parent:
what

andrew_deangelo:
a lot of activism

pothead_parent:
yes

andrew_deangelo:
happening in the in the veteran community right now leaders like you are holding the flag and leading the charge and it's great because

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
change needs to occur there really

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
really badly

pothead_parent:
too many people die in way too young too many kids left behind too many wives families it's just it's it's got to stop it's from twenty two a day now to forty four a day statistically it's like what other flag do you need go up in the air like hello i mean it's

andrew_deangelo:
wow

pothead_parent:
wild

andrew_deangelo:
that's so sad i'm so sorry to

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
hear that i didn't know it was that high now

pothead_parent:
yeah it's up to twenty two for forty four a day now so it's

andrew_deangelo:
yah

pothead_parent:
it's crazy

andrew_deangelo:
m

pothead_parent:
i did want to ask you a couple more questions

andrew_deangelo:
yes

pothead_parent:
kind of break it up a little bit but in a smoking circle what's your biggest pot peef'agoodone

andrew_deangelo:
oh you know i'm pretty forgiven in a smoking

pothead_parent:
ah

andrew_deangelo:
circle

pothead_parent:
you're ready

andrew_deangelo:
i

pothead_parent:
high

andrew_deangelo:
think

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
that yeah i mean i'm pretty forgiving one of the pet pas i have right now is

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
when people aren't mindful that we're still

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
in a covid um reality um

pothead_parent:
o

andrew_deangelo:
and so they get a little reckless with with how they're consuming or sharing

pothead_parent:
or even preparing

andrew_deangelo:
a

pothead_parent:
oh my god the ways that

andrew_deangelo:
yeah

pothead_parent:
you can prepare now there's so many other ways besides using your saliva and just getting all in an to smoke

andrew_deangelo:
well

pothead_parent:
my own

andrew_deangelo:
and

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
just yeah there's

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
different there's just different ways

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
of holding a drink so it doesn't touch your mouth and

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
you know just so that's

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
one of my pet peas because

pothead_parent:
yes

andrew_deangelo:
you know the covid is still happening

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
we're still in this respiratory

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
you know sickness reality

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
that we're living in so

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
that but i'm pretty forgiving man once you're in a circle i'm so happy that you're there and that

pothead_parent:
i

andrew_deangelo:
we're

pothead_parent:
love

andrew_deangelo:
all sharing

pothead_parent:
that

andrew_deangelo:
tunovis together that you know if you bogart the join or you get

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
or it goes out or the cherry comes out or whatever

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
you know it's like

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
it's all right

pothead_parent:
i love that that's how i am i'm

andrew_deangelo:
yeah

pothead_parent:
like whatever who cares this one who's like my pet paves the burn that just hate i'm going basset can

andrew_deangelo:
yeah

pothead_parent:
pass it just just going away

andrew_deangelo:
yeah

pothead_parent:
like i'll

andrew_deangelo:
yeah

pothead_parent:
get there man it will happen you'll get it we'll all get it we'll all share

andrew_deangelo:
gentle

pothead_parent:
it

andrew_deangelo:
gentle

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
reminders i am

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
a believer in gentle reminder

pothead_parent:
it's a little hey which over there

andrew_deangelo:
yeah i mean i'm not going to just sit

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
there and not say anything

pothead_parent:
yeah you got to say something it's like some good weed can you not let it burn that long place

andrew_deangelo:
yeah i'm

pothead_parent:
i

andrew_deangelo:
not

pothead_parent:
love

andrew_deangelo:
gonna

pothead_parent:
it

andrew_deangelo:
yeah

pothead_parent:
or no what do you say that i do is when half of it she canesitevtime i don't she

andrew_deangelo:
oh

pothead_parent:
prefers belike song so when she smokes a blunt or a joint she wax on it like you can't do that and it's like a cigar taking a little slow nice and smooth turn it like she she just

andrew_deangelo:
yeah

pothead_parent:
wants to take the thing right down and then you know whole thing runs and it well that's my second question what's your favorite way to consume oh

andrew_deangelo:
wow it's changed over the years you know but i still love smoking hash

pothead_parent:
yeah m

andrew_deangelo:
so that's really

pothead_parent:
old school

andrew_deangelo:
you know

pothead_parent:
that's old school

andrew_deangelo:
still i still love

pothead_parent:
love

andrew_deangelo:
really

pothead_parent:
it

andrew_deangelo:
good flower too

pothead_parent:
ship

andrew_deangelo:
but you know old school

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
water hash i love finger hash is really my favorite finger hashes when you're harvesting wheat and and the

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
sticky stuff gets on your fingers and you rub it and

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
its hash basically

pothead_parent:
hm

andrew_deangelo:
um and i love finger hash so and i just love good clean regenerative sun one

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
cannabis that's really what i'm into and that's what i seek out luckily here in california i'm able to get that pretty much year around but but in a lot of play it's hard you know it's harder to get the sun grown but but that's what i love to consume i also take a lot of edibles because you know i can't i can't inhale as much cannabis at my age as i could you know forty years ago when i first started so i do i still i take a lot of capsules basically hopes capsules

pothead_parent:
her we had sometimes our son so were the podheadparents likes to make a cameo appearance so he just ran on the door so missy's grabbing him but the consumption

andrew_deangelo:
okay

pothead_parent:
like you're saying yeah i'm a blunt guy i like to roll my own joints but were like were trying to educate on our end like myself i started taking edibles and like hey i want to stop smoking i just don't want to physically smoke um they kill my stomach i don't know what it is but like that oil or whatever in my stomach

andrew_deangelo:
yeah

pothead_parent:
it's

andrew_deangelo:
yeah

pothead_parent:
like a four or five day thing it's horrible

andrew_deangelo:
m

pothead_parent:
um

andrew_deangelo:
right

pothead_parent:
and i tried it a couple of times or i'm like okay maybe i was just a bad batch or from a different state but no it's just what do they call that sea see something like where the oil in your stomach people get sick from it

andrew_deangelo:
yeah it's not uncommon t's not uncommon that people get a little bit of of that

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
people that are sensitive

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
to it yeah that's not uncommon

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
but luckily that does not happen

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
to me

pothead_parent:
yeah that's good i'm jealous i wish i could eat em can't just litter

andrew_deangelo:
yeah

pothead_parent:
consume it in every way possible i enjoy drink all cut either she doesn't care he'll

andrew_deangelo:
yeah

pothead_parent:
do all of it

andrew_deangelo:
yeah i'm pretty much like that too

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
but i mean there's nothing like you know inhaling really good

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
hash a really good flower there's you know it's

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
kind of like

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
um it's the closest thing i guess we would have to a wine

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
experience

pothead_parent:
exactly

andrew_deangelo:
because we have we have a lot of turpins and flavinoids like wine

pothead_parent:
okay

andrew_deangelo:
has and so

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
you know it's so that's what i love and and i love

pothead_parent:
i

andrew_deangelo:
small growers i love craft cannabis i love

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
um hearing all the stories about small batch production and now that's i think the way in the future

pothead_parent:
for

andrew_deangelo:
for

pothead_parent:
sure

andrew_deangelo:
people who really love high quality cannabis

pothead_parent:
we're actually moving so officially you're atually the first person to know this but we're moving back to buffalo and the reason i'm bringing this up we just found this out two days ago were actually moving in like a week so the legalization in new york is there but it's not no one has a clue what is going on in buffalo but there are some small batch growers there that i mean some of those some of the stuff there grow in the smell of it i want to make into an airfreshener it's like there's

andrew_deangelo:
yeah

pothead_parent:
so much good weed there that guys are afraid to come to the surface and be like hey i've been growing in buffalo new york for the last fifteen twenty years like i could easily do this already have the process but like what do you see with new york being like i mean not the city but like we're in western new york buffalo like what do you see being hurtle

andrew_deangelo:
yeah

pothead_parent:
for them to get over oh

andrew_deangelo:
yah

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
h well it's it's going to be licensing regulation

pothead_parent:
m oh

andrew_deangelo:
and taxes and competing with the underground market i mean that's

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
that's going to be now you've got those growers are probably if their weeds really good there their biggest

pothead_parent:
my

andrew_deangelo:
problem is getting busted right so

pothead_parent:
oh yeah yes

andrew_deangelo:
the weed itself has probably got a good

pothead_parent:
h

andrew_deangelo:
market

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
and good prices and they make a decent living

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
and you know they're probably not getting super rich because they're small right

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
so they don't get caught but they live a good upper middle class life you know my advice would be to stay there for a minute

pothead_parent:
yeah right that's good advice bcasetwe're going to watch this too so at's good

andrew_deangelo:
yeah

pothead_parent:
okay

andrew_deangelo:
i mean because new york program is the first

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
mover advantage is going to require a lot of capital

pothead_parent:
hm

andrew_deangelo:
and you're just going to need a ship ton of money man to capitalize

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
on the first for advantage in new york the second

pothead_parent:
a

andrew_deangelo:
movers and the third movers in a place like

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
buffalo

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
do really well man you know and

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
so let the m s s open their shops and get their first wave or whatever you know

pothead_parent:
true

andrew_deangelo:
in there but you know a town like buffalo is perfectly positioned to have what i call regional entrepreneurs like you your ambitions are more than just being having one shop or being a mom and pop right you have a little bit bigger ambition than that but you don't want a global domination you don't want to be like

pothead_parent:
no

andrew_deangelo:
true leave or anything

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
like that and so buffalo

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
is a really good place and western new york and albany and you know

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
outside the five burrows i think is a good place

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
to be everyone's going be zigging to the five burrows zagging

pothead_parent:
yes

andrew_deangelo:
outside the five burrows is you know

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
i mean don't

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
get me wrong it's going to be very active

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
outside of the five burrows too and there's

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
gonna be a lot of entrepremorial

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
activity how many

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
people really know what they're doing and how many people know

pothead_parent:
oh oh

andrew_deangelo:
what they don't

pothead_parent:
no

andrew_deangelo:
know right so that they call

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
somebody like me does know

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
and to help them you know build their business so

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
you know there's there's

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
a lot of i think opportunity

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
actually outside of the five burrows and i like

pothead_parent:
yes

andrew_deangelo:
the micro

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
business license in new york i think people can make that work

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
i like um i like the social equity you know provisions you know at least on paper they're pretty good

pothead_parent:
all right

andrew_deangelo:
you of course they're rolling out real clumsy

pothead_parent:
oh oh

andrew_deangelo:
and i suspect they'll continue to roll out clumsy but but you know the biggest problem in new york is going to be the same problem we've had in california it's just

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
will the government and the regulators creative framework that allows legal

pothead_parent:
go

andrew_deangelo:
license

pothead_parent:
i

andrew_deangelo:
market to

pothead_parent:
yes

andrew_deangelo:
compete with the unregulated unlicensed market and if the answer is no

pothead_parent:
um

andrew_deangelo:
and the legal market is only going to get about twenty

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
five percent

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
of the overall market

pothead_parent:
need to work

andrew_deangelo:
and then

pothead_parent:
together

andrew_deangelo:
yeah i mean no one to crack the code on the framework to get everybody in um and new york is no exception that they're having terrible problems in the in the five burrows and with

pothead_parent:
m oh

andrew_deangelo:
the gray market and eric adams

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
and a lot of people want to crack down on it and they are

pothead_parent:
god

andrew_deangelo:
cracking down on it and they are

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
shutting people down and doing smashing grabs and they might start prosecuting people so you know you're starting to see this

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
prohibition to point o sort of emerge

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
in the five burrows a little bit and and they're going

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
to get put you know the big companies

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
are going to lobby for more enforcement

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
against license operators

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
so it's going to be hard

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
in new york for a little while here all

pothead_parent:
h

andrew_deangelo:
that activity all

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
those conflicts all those

pothead_parent:
a

andrew_deangelo:
competing

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
interests

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
all the learning that needs to happen

pothead_parent:
yes

andrew_deangelo:
it's going to be kind of

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
rough waters for a while but

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
if you want to build

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
something authentic

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
and real like you're talking about and place like buffalo by all means you can do it i mean the opportunity

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
is there there are people smoking weed

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
in buffalo they

pothead_parent:
all

andrew_deangelo:
need

pothead_parent:
over

andrew_deangelo:
pensories they need consumption lounges

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
they want that they want a nice community center they can go

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
to m and m and be you know yeah harsh winters there i could see consumption lounges

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
doing really well you

pothead_parent:
it's

andrew_deangelo:
know

pothead_parent:
the goal

andrew_deangelo:
in a place like buffalo get

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
people out of the cold weather get

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
them with other people get them

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
warm get them carrying

pothead_parent:
stone

andrew_deangelo:
canovas gather hot chocolate coffee drinks

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
hopeful you know all that stuff and you know you can start to imagine it so i think

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
i'm

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
i think it's a good move actually for you to go back

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
there i was i was kind of surprised you left there in the first place but i think it's smart to go back there huge opportunities i think

pothead_parent:
it was really nice to be able to plant some seeds out here because we're not west coast people we didn't know anybody out from the west coast we weren't you know it was really great to be able to meet some awesome people talk about you know more than just buffalo and new york in general you know so i go to see the dispenser the processes because we're gonna come back there and people know they still message is hey how do i go to a dispensary where do i go like we're just going to hold a class of like hey where a pretend dispensary come in like it like you're sayin there's so much

andrew_deangelo:
no

pothead_parent:
opportunity

andrew_deangelo:
it's

pothead_parent:
there

andrew_deangelo:
mark

pothead_parent:
s crazy

andrew_deangelo:
yeah it was really smart for you to do that and get out of the

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
get into a legal state where

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
you can really experience what's happening right

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
the good the bad and the ugly

pothead_parent:
exactly

andrew_deangelo:
i mean i'm sure you've seen you've seen a lot

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
of things that you would do differently right

pothead_parent:
absoactly

andrew_deangelo:
in nevada and you

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
know and

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
it's like the when get in the legal market there's really two

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
you quickly learn those two choices you can

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
create a turn and burn experience and get as many people into your dispenser and out as

pothead_parent:
h

andrew_deangelo:
quickly as you can and

pothead_parent:
h

andrew_deangelo:
upset them and do all this stuff and

pothead_parent:
hm

andrew_deangelo:
don't invest a lot of money in a customer experience or de

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
cool

pothead_parent:
ye

andrew_deangelo:
you know just get him in get him out

pothead_parent:
yep

andrew_deangelo:
turn and burn

pothead_parent:
yep

andrew_deangelo:
and people make money doing that

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
and then there's you know the other vision

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
is to invest a little bit more

pothead_parent:
ah

andrew_deangelo:
in the experience

pothead_parent:
ah experience

andrew_deangelo:
and certofyeah and the customers

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
and the products

pothead_parent:
yet

andrew_deangelo:
and maybe

pothead_parent:
the reason

andrew_deangelo:
having

pothead_parent:
of

andrew_deangelo:
stuff

pothead_parent:
why you're doing this what we're doing

andrew_deangelo:
yeah

pothead_parent:
this for more meaning to it than just the money in the monetary end of it

andrew_deangelo:
and it's probably gonna be smaller but it's probably got to be more imbedded in the community that it's

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
in and an ill be fun it will be

pothead_parent:
it's

andrew_deangelo:
fun

pothead_parent:
a different

andrew_deangelo:
to go to

pothead_parent:
type

andrew_deangelo:
work

pothead_parent:
of

andrew_deangelo:
here

pothead_parent:
success for you

andrew_deangelo:
yeah it's a different it's a different type of thing and

pothead_parent:
when this gets big

andrew_deangelo:
i

pothead_parent:
we want you in buffalo that wings pizza weed it's

andrew_deangelo:
yeah

pothead_parent:
ill ver well make it happen that's our next goal next one is you

andrew_deangelo:
yeah

pothead_parent:
come out to buffalo we make that happen

andrew_deangelo:
yeah

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
i mean i would love to

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
i remember when we first

pothead_parent:
i

andrew_deangelo:
there were a couple of other people reached out from buffalo not just you guys

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
and you know i wasn't able to

pothead_parent:
uh

andrew_deangelo:
it's still so early

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
so none of those folks were able to do anything quite yet but

pothead_parent:
h

andrew_deangelo:
but

pothead_parent:
m making it happen

andrew_deangelo:
i

pothead_parent:
i put that in the universe

andrew_deangelo:
when the

pothead_parent:
it's

andrew_deangelo:
snow

pothead_parent:
happening

andrew_deangelo:
storm you

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
know i was really thinking of you guys in buffalo when the snow storm

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
came through and i was you know

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
i'm sure the media made it seem a

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
lot more worse than it actually was but

pothead_parent:
no it was

andrew_deangelo:
i was that

pothead_parent:
my

andrew_deangelo:
definitely

pothead_parent:
parents

andrew_deangelo:
feeling

pothead_parent:
our families was still there it was a very buffalo has been through quite a bit this past year between you know the shooting at tops happened in what was

andrew_deangelo:
yeah

pothead_parent:
it may and then you know this storm they're cleaning up messes um families are hurting in so many different ways show it's um it was wild it was a wild ride that they've been through the it was hard to watch from afar i'll say that and stuck out here knowing that

andrew_deangelo:
at

pothead_parent:
your home town was tough to do anything

andrew_deangelo:
yeah

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
it was hard for me and i was just watching on t v so yeah um but

pothead_parent:
another

andrew_deangelo:
you know

pothead_parent:
question for you because you know i'm following on one more this is that i promise

andrew_deangelo:
okay

pothead_parent:
if you're only allowed to change one thing in the cannabis industry tomorrow and it happens would it be i know you got a lot under your belt

andrew_deangelo:
it's a

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
really great question

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
i think you know i'm not going to

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
say public policy or taxes or regulation

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
or anything like

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
that

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
what

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
i'm always wanting a

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
unity is the thing we're missing um and it doesn't matter there's just it doesn't matter if

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
we're within this owner community or the medical community

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
or

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
the investor community or the finance community

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
or m s s or we're all

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
one big industry

pothead_parent:
yes

andrew_deangelo:
community

pothead_parent:
uh

andrew_deangelo:
really

pothead_parent:
right

andrew_deangelo:
and we're not getting along very good the unity is not there that's why we haven't been able to improve

pothead_parent:
uh

andrew_deangelo:
the frameworks that's why we haven't been able to

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
make more progress

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
in places like the v a if we had

pothead_parent:
hm

andrew_deangelo:
more unity we could

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
make a lot of change

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
pretty quickly we could write our own loss we could

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
write our own taxes we could this this is a pay to play political system

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
i mean everybody knows that right is prett clear so

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
if you don't

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
pay you won't get to play and you will get

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
played um

pothead_parent:
hm

andrew_deangelo:
and that's what's happening and so i would change unity if we had more unity

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
um we could get everybody out of prison

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
we could fix the

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
we could just do so much

pothead_parent:
ah

andrew_deangelo:
a lot faster than we're able to do now

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
and you know so people are still building

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
motes instead

pothead_parent:
um

andrew_deangelo:
of tearing down walls and

pothead_parent:
hm

andrew_deangelo:
so that's what

pothead_parent:
ah

andrew_deangelo:
i would change over night if i could more unity amongst us

pothead_parent:
it's like the seeds and the roots of the trees of you know the canvas industry are out we got to get to the stump we got to get rmftheriwe got we got to get to the stumps you know we can get to the fruit of the tree the beauty of all of this and that's when it all

andrew_deangelo:
yeah

pothead_parent:
comes together i love it

andrew_deangelo:
yeah it's hard

pothead_parent:
your true inspiration you motivated us in the beginning you continue to motivate us as we watch you day to day um we just want to thank you so much for everything that you do and what you've done for us and coming on today and talking to us and telling us about your story and you know i appreciate it so much thank you very much

andrew_deangelo:
what

pothead_parent:
we know you're more than busy enough going on and we appreciate this more than you'll now

andrew_deangelo:
well this is my favorite thing to do in the whole world and all the parents and pets out there listening

pothead_parent:
es

andrew_deangelo:
you know stay strong stay

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
active

pothead_parent:
yeah

andrew_deangelo:
and keep engaging

pothead_parent:
ye

andrew_deangelo:
with everybody around you and it'll

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
it'll be frustrating at

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
times and it'll be other times where it'll

pothead_parent:
oh

andrew_deangelo:
be really uplifting because you'll make some progress in

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
it just day by day and together

pothead_parent:
m

andrew_deangelo:
we'll all get there

pothead_parent:
hey man appreciate that so much thank you again our next podcast will be from buffalo with you right

andrew_deangelo:
all

pothead_parent:
whether

andrew_deangelo:
right

pothead_parent:
it's virtual

andrew_deangelo:
looking

pothead_parent:
or not

andrew_deangelo:
forward to it all right

pothead_parent:
all right thank you so much i'm just

andrew_deangelo:
right

pothead_parent:
just its top it'll count down

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